Trot line hooks

[petekilch]

Been off the site for quite some time, looking to become active again...

Wanting to rig a trotline hook on the side of my 14' Jon boat... Could someone post pics of their set-ups so I can get some ideas?

Thanks.

Pete

[POLECAT]

Welcome back Pete!

Here's one.


http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/crabbers/261847-big-thanks-polecat.html#post1364759

[choptank]

Hey Pete!

[lreops]

Welcome back Pete!

Here's one.


http://www.tidalfish.com/forums/crabbers/261847-big-thanks-polecat.html#post1364759


Ah, Jerry, I think that rig just might be considered a little "over kill" for a 14' Jon boat. I would even think that he would need some out-riggers to support that monster hanging over the side.:yes::hysterical::yes:

[petekilch]

Hey ya'll !

Thanks Jerry ! I saw those picks while searching the site... Looks great Just trying to figure how could I attach that to the side of my Jon?

Pete

[BowMovements]

It aint purrty but it sure is ugly. LOL

[petekilch]

BowMovements,

THANKS !! Looks like it get's er done !

IRONICALLY, my 14' Lowe with a 25 Yammy has been named "Bow Movement" Since 1995 ! LOL TOO FUNNY !

Pete

[POLECAT]

OK, here's one that's a lot simpler in the attachment department.

19223

[POLECAT]

I'd call this a work of art!
However, Art did not make this roller. My friend Richard (candyman) made this one.

19224

It's as smooth as silk!!!!

[BowMovements]

BowMovements,

THANKS !! Looks like it get's er done !

IRONICALLY, my 14' Lowe with a 25 Yammy has been named "Bow Movement" Since 1995 ! LOL TOO FUNNY !

Pete


Great minds think alike!! (So what's our excuse) :-)

[homewrecker]

Hey Pete,just use some of your redneck engineering and get PJ out there and catch some crabs.

Wtlhntr

[petekilch]

Hey Pete,just use some of your redneck engineering and get PJ out there and catch some crabs.

Wtlhntr


LOL you are EVERYWHERE ! How ya doing buddy ??

Pete

[petekilch]

Great minds think alike!! (So what's our excuse) :-)

GREAT POINT :)

Pete

[homewrecker]

Pete,Im hanging in there,thats about it.Hows Lenore and the PRINCESS doing,as well as the rest of the tribe out there?

[petekilch]

Pete,Im hanging in there,thats about it.Hows Lenore and the PRINCESS doing,as well as the rest of the tribe out there?


We are good ! Just got back from eating crabs at my dad's... Two of my brothers went out today and caught a bushel ! They were good....

Man, what an awesome weather day. I spent 1.5 hrs preasure washing the rainbow swing set (we bought used, very well used), and staining it tomorrow..... Shoud get out on the water next week for my first time this year !

Pete

[petekilch]

THANKS Polecat ! Got some ideas to go with now........ Will be fabricating something this week. will post pics once completed.

Pete

[Weber]

Been off the site for quite some time, looking to become active again...

Wanting to rig a trotline hook on the side of my 14' Jon boat... Could someone post pics of their set-ups so I can get some ideas?

Thanks.

Pete

Some guys get crazy with the design of their prop sticks, I recommend you keep it simple!

Your in 14' jon boat, so lots of things are going to change your angle and depth of your prop stick and how the line comes out of the water.

So, you need to be able to adjust your prop stick quickly and smoothly for these changes.

What type of line are you running? Snood or reg?

That really matters when selecting the design of your prop stick.

I have been using mine for years, with different types and sizes of boats. It is very simple and works great. I never had one break, get tangled, ect....

I use a scotty pole holder and use 1" pvc, filled with foam, I don't have any pics but maybe I can get one for you.

The pole holder allows quick changes to depth and location of the prop stick against the water level and line postition.

I use 1" since I do not run a snood line, if you do it will need to be bigger in size to prevent the snoods from wrapping around it.

I have to base's for the pole holder, one is for when I have someone with me dipping, and the other is further back for when I'm driving and dipping.

I can also take it off and store in one of my compartments and it is out of site and not in the way. And I have an extra pole holder for fishing!

[petekilch]

Some guys get crazy with the design of their prop sticks, I recommend you keep it simple!

Your in 14' jon boat, so lots of things are going to change your angle and depth of your prop stick and how the line comes out of the water.

So, you need to be able to adjust your prop stick quickly and smoothly for these changes.

What type of line are you running? Snood or reg?

That really matters when selecting the design of your prop stick.

I have been using mine for years, with different types and sizes of boats. It is very simple and works great. I never had one break, get tangled, ect....

I use a scotty pole holder and use 1" pvc, filled with foam, I don't have any pics but maybe I can get one for you.

The pole holder allows quick changes to depth and location of the prop stick against the water level and line postition.

I use 1" since I do not run a snood line, if you do it will need to be bigger in size to prevent the snoods from wrapping around it.

I have to base's for the pole holder, one is for when I have someone with me dipping, and the other is further back for when I'm driving and dipping.

I can also take it off and store in one of my compartments and it is out of site and not in the way. And I have an extra pole holder for fishing!


Running a reg line, not snoods... I too want to keep it simple. As you, I want to make it asjustable for running it myself or with the kids... And your right, need to be able to compensate for line tightness, tide, wind etc...

Would love to see a pic of yours if you can.... I'm headed out back now to try to envision how I'm going to do this, I'm not much of a designer/engeineer..... or fabricator for that matter....

Thanks !

Pete

[Weber]

Here are a couple pics.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/WeberSteve/DSCF0252.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/WeberSteve/propstick.jpg

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm198/WeberSteve/DSCF0253.jpg

Not sure if you can see it, but on the pole holder I drilled a hole and inserted a bolt with a wing nut, I can quickly loosen that wing nut and rotate the prop stick forward or back for changes on the line. You can also use the pole holders grooves to lock it in at different angles.

[Weber]

In the second pic you can see both of the pole holder bases I have mounted. The one behind the seat is for when someone is dipping in the front, the one further back is for when I'm by myself driving and dipping.

You can see behind the seat that there is about a foot or so of extra pipe, I can extend it out or bring it in depending on my dipper. Some guys dip between the boat and the line, and others dip from the outside in. With this I can change it to whatever works for my current dipper...

[petekilch]

Weber,

THANKS!!! I have two of those holders my dad gave me and I never mounted!!! I have a very similar boat, but no decking, so I'm mounting mine right to the gunwale!!! I'm pumped, a very basic and easy set-up and it will work perfect! Hopefully have it done this week (quite busy with a newborn and 5 other kids).

THANKS EVERYONE !!!!!!!

Pete

[Weber]

Anytime!

Goodluck with the crabs, when are you planning on going out?

[petekilch]

Going Saturday, but on my neighbors boat or my 18' pontoon that is rigged and ready to go.

I my take the "Bow Movement" on Sunday for it's shakedown trip. Due to circumstances, the old girl hasn't seen the water in a while, been using the pontoon mostly. But this year, the BM will be seeing a lot more action, as she is used to...........

How about you? Where will you be? I'm probably hitting the South.......

Pete

[Weber]

Planning on hitting the little choptank, killed them out there last weekend!

We are having my youngest son's 1st birthday party, so hoping to bring home a bushel or two for the party...

[petekilch]

Planning on hitting the little choptank, killed them out there last weekend!

We are having my youngest son's 1st birthday party, so hoping to bring home a bushel or two for the party...


COOL !

Good luck to you and Happy Birthday to your little guy !

Pete

[burgessm84]

Weber - that's really nice. Can you confirm that you used 1 inch pvc? It looks bigger than that.


Thanks,
Mike

[petekilch]

Weber - that's really nice. Can you confirm that you used 1 inch pvc? It looks bigger than that.


Thanks,
Mike

I just got back from Lowes, 1" it is... I'm sure that refers to the inside diameter... The elbows and cap are 1 1/4"....

Pete

[burgessm84]

1" it is - thanks.
That's a Scotty "Baitcaster/Spinning Rod Holder" right?
Any opinion on which base is strongest? Deckmount or flush?

This sure looks easier than my first (I just got a different boat, so have to dedo it), which I made for a 12' aluminum rowboat. This one certainly aces the 'flexible' category.

[Weber]

Weber - that's really nice. Can you confirm that you used 1 inch pvc? It looks bigger than that.


Thanks,
Mike

Yes its 1", its tight in the holder you have to actually pull the holder a little to get it in there.

Make sure you use the thicker pvc for strength, sch40 or bigger.

[Weber]

1" it is - thanks.
That's a Scotty "Baitcaster/Spinning Rod Holder" right?
Any opinion on which base is strongest? Deckmount or flush?

This sure looks easier than my first (I just got a different boat, so have to dedo it), which I made for a 12' aluminum rowboat. This one certainly aces the 'flexible' category.

Yeah, its the scotty holder, not sure which is stronger. I would use what ever fits your boat the best.

[tomytek]

Sorry. I may be jumping in a little late. I made a similar design as Weber's for my 14' Starcraft jon boat. It was clamped to my gunnel. I made mine with the rod holder angled. I also made my prop stick adjustable, so that I could raise and lower it and move it away from the boat. It was made with 1 1/4" and 1" PVC.

http://tomytek.com/prop/action.jpg

I tied a rope to the back of it to brace it from the pull of my trotline. If I didn't, the pull from my trotline would probably rip off my prop stick.

http://tomytek.com/prop/rope.jpg

I later upgraded to a 16.5' Starcraft and modified my prop stick. I used the same roller part, but change the the mount to a cradle. This allows me to move my prop stick anywhere on my boat.

http://tomytek.com/crabbing/prop2.jpg

http://tomytek.com/crabbing/theresone.jpg

Now I have a 218DLV Carolina Skiff and modified my prop stick to fit. I had to make a new cradle and lower the roller part. The square part of my prop stick is to prevent guests from accidentally knocking off the line while dipping.

http://tomytek.com/crabbing/propcs.jpg

[burgessm84]

More good ideas Tomytek - I particularly like the extra piece to stop the line from being lost. I've done that more than once when I got under the line with the net and lifted the line right off the propstick ;-(

Does your roller actually roll? I did a pvc over pvc roller like that on my last one and it never actually spun. Seems there was so little friction on the roller from the line, and probably some dirt in between the pvc, that it never moved.

Thanks,
Mike

[tomytek]

The roller part does not roll. I believe that it was a 2" piece of PVC. The idea is to have a pipe big enough, so that your snood does not wrap around the PVC. It would probably work better if the entire section was 2" PVC. My line actually started getting caught in the corner from wear and tear, so I cut it off and added a rubber flap. It works much better now.

[petekilch]

Tomytek,

GREAT info, and thanks for sharing !

Just got done mounting my Scotty rod holders, have a few extra holes in the gunwale LOL:eek:

The PVC I bought is too small, I must have a different model holders than Weber... So back to Lowes tomorrow for 1 1/2", I tried a piece my neighbor had and it fit snug.......

Almost done, and pics to come.

THANKS EVERYONE for all your help !!!!!!!

Pete

[ishoti]

I keep mine simple and cheap. I run my line from an elevated seat on the front of my boat and run the line with a trolling motor. I have my hook about half way down my boat. I also have a 14'. I only use my gas motor to run out to my area and back and to go from the end of my line back to the beginning. It's made from 3/4" PVC, but you could beef it up and make it from 1". I have a couple on the boat at all time and have 1 that I can attach to the back if I just want to use my gas motor. It cost about $2.00 and takes about 10 minutes to make19394 on a bad day.

[burgessm84]

Thanks to Weber & Tomytek for the various propstick ideas. I took what you had and replaced with two curved pieces I had laying around - it works really well because the line stays in the curved section, so it doesn't get jammed against a joint and I'm hoping this will create less wear. I took Tomytek's idea for the far end which will stop me from losing the line if I lift the line too high with the net.

Filled most of it with foam and capped the outside end. Capped the inside end too, then realized it wouldn't fit into the rod holder that way, so I cut the cap off and put an inch of epoxy to seal it. It floats well.

It worked very well, and I didn't need any sort of tensioner to stop it from sliding right out of the holder - friction seems to have taken care of keeping it in place.

Very adjustable as advertised - up/down, in/out.



Thanks for the ideas!
Mike

[petekilch]

VERY NICE !!

My new set-up is VERY similar to that !

Thanks to all that posted their ideas, I have caught a bunch of crabs on it this year so far... I will get to posting pics of it soon..

Pete

[Weber]

Looks Good!

[petekilch]

FINALLY getting around to posting pics of the finished product..... THANKS for all the great ideas guys. WORKS GREAT !

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx42/petekilch/100_1687.jpg
http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx42/petekilch/100_1688.jpg
http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx42/petekilch/100_1692.jpg
http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx42/petekilch/100_1693.jpg


Pete

[BowMovements]

She's a beaut!

[JIM FISHHOOKED]

Nice to see so many different types of line guides
dont have a pic of mine on hand but will try to get one
what i wonder is does anybody notice any difference running a 2 or 4 cycle engine while crabbing??