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scotty80
06-01-2006, 09:25 PM
From, http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/tidalfish/tidalfishmotions041306.html
Old Business:



Recreational Crab Licenses:



Mrs. Hunt came back to the Commission with information she was asked to provide about the possibility of changing the license fees for Recreational Crabbing Licenses. She told the Commissioners that the Department could change the nonresident fees, but not significantly. The Equal Protection Clause prevents any agency from charging an out-of-state licensee more than the cost of the administrative burden for issuing a nonresident license. In other words, the increase could not be unfair or unreasonable. The Department cannot change the price of the $40 pleasure boat license, which includes a crabbing license, because it is set in law. The decal is the same price for both residents and non-residents. But, the Department can remove the crabbing license as part of the decal by regulation.

George Luongo, representing the Working Watermen of Anne Arundel County, expressed concern that recreational licenses are growing, but commercial licenses are limited. He feels that this growing number of recreational crabbers is directly impacting his catch. Mr. Luongo felt that raising the fee is not a solution; only a cap on the number of recreational licenses will get the desired result. His association is suggesting a cap on the number of recreational licenses sold. If a cap is not possible, then they suggest a reduction in the recreational catch gear allowed. Mr. Luongo proposed that the current allowance of 1200 feet of trot line be reduced to 300 feet. Commissioner Simns did not think that 300 feet would ever be acceptable to recreational crabbers and suggested a reduction to 600 feet. He and other commercial watermen present felt that no reporting requirement for recreational crabbers is also a problem. They felt that data is important and the Department should have a harvest information program for recreational crabbers. Recreational catch information is needed for accurate harvest numbers. Howard King, Director of the Fisheries Service, said there seems to be an allocation problem between the commercial and the recreational crabbers, and if the problem is carefully identified, there may be some solution. He asked if the time restrictions were working; the watermen all felt that it is not.



Commissioner Larry Simns made a motion that the TFAC set up a work group to explore the possible changes that can be made to the recreational crab licenses and how to go about making the necessary changes. A suggestion was made to also get other stakeholders (i.e., the South River Association, CBF, etc.) to serve on the workgroup.
Commissioner Andrea Jacquette seconded.
The motion passed unanimously.


I'm always amazed that watermen feel they have the golden key to the Bay's resources.

scotty80
06-03-2006, 01:33 PM
reds originally wrote:
What they are saying is: It can work both ways. You come at me and I'll come at you.





I assume your referring to the yellow perch deal?

scotty80
06-03-2006, 02:15 PM
ah yes, the put & take oyster fishery paid for by MD taxpayers that only and directly benifts Watermen. I'd be pissed too, that's a nice scam job! Rockfish? Let me guess, allocation is too small?

I also thought of it as a way to get back at the recs. SFAC shot down the idea when they proposed it there first. Another little in your face thingy?

scotty80
06-03-2006, 05:08 PM
reds originally wrote:

I guess MD oysters aren't consumed by MD taxpayers just paid for by them. Same applies to schools and parks. If I don't use them why should my tax money pay for them? Subway's? Public Buses? Baltimore's Harbor? You get the idea.

As for the rockfish.
Not expanding allocation, advocating taking away all of what they have.





My idea is that MDDNR current oyster recovery program isn't working and never will. It's a government subsidy to the waterman. You want to subsidize waterman? Fine, just don't call it oyster recovery.

mikie
06-03-2006, 05:16 PM
Actually Scotty, watermen have to pay an additional $300 surcharge, on top of whatever license they hold, to go oystering - then they pay a per bushel tax, all of which goes toward the oyster replenishment program. Not saying it covers all of the expense, but they are paying. Also, they routinely receive $18 - $23/bushel off of the boat for their oysters - limited to 15 bushels max per day per licensee. Most don't come close to the limit anymore - not exactly the cushy, rich lifestyle you may be imagining in your mind.
Also, additional surcharges for harvesting rockfish. Lots of extra charges being paid by these guys to harvest "your" resources.

scotty80
06-03-2006, 08:19 PM
mikie originally wrote:
Lots of extra charges being paid by these guys to harvest "your" resources.

Thanks for the details on the fees mikie. But it's supply and demand. If waterman lost money paying fees while harvesting oysters they would certainly stop. DNR is subsidizing oyster harvesting in MD. That is not their job! Their job is to revive the natural population to a harvestable level. They are failing miserably and have been for years. I would love to see oysters rebound so that waterman could take a responsible harvest. Can you honestly see that happening under the current plan?

As for your quote above. There is no natural resource left to harvest . Only man made.