Wreck Numbers...

[Jrzrider83]

Let me start off by saying that I know this is a touchy subject.
Good numbers are hard to come by and are not very frequently given out.
I would like to get a general impression from those of you who have looked up numbers on different websites.
Have any of these numbers put you on good bottom marks?
The sights I have found include: Chesapeake angler, Jim Baugh outdoors, and various dive sites.

Before I want to start recommending numbers I have found on the internet to people I’d like to know if there is even a chance that any of these numbers will produce.
As I am currently a permanent HO, having a couple proven numbers in your pocket can be a valuable commodity.

I just want to know if it is worth it to leave the dock with numbers from these sights having that be the only plan for the day.


Thanks!

[gus]

No always have a backup plan even with fished on numbers

[Persistence2]

No...I would not rely on those numbers. A slight error can cause you to drive in circles and never find anything

[cyruss Dog]

When I started taking my boat to the Triangle wrecks I took every number I found on the sites you mentioned............carefully plugged them into my Garmin gps..........spent hours looking for them........and then I'm pretty sure I cussed them all.

Some of the numbers are close but you WILL have to search. Don't expect to run up on the coordinates and wham there it is. The only way I had success with any of those numbers is running a box pattern search from the original mark.

Good luck


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Little Creek

[Reel Therapy]

Hate to say it but the best way to get a good number is from another angler willing to give it up or by hitting MOB when you pass someone pulling something off the bottom.

[Mike Avery]

These are accurate.

Brass Spike: 36 55.818'N 075 33.910'W
Santore: 36 53..846'N 075 46.864'W
Powell: 36 49.060'N 075 23.822'W
4A Drydock: 36 35.918'N 075 41.871'W
Ricks: 36 47.903'N 075 29.575'W
Hanks: 36 43.710'N 075 34.153'W
Consols: 36 28.485'N 075 38.403'W
Luckenenbach 36 58.543'N 075 24.850'W
Ocean Venture: 37 04.425' 074 55.722'
44 Fathom: 36 54.775' 074 42.456'
Chenango: 36 27.617' 074 56.601'

[Jrzrider83]

wow.
thanks mike.
now can you just tell me when, what bait, how and for what fish!

just kidding.

thanks for the heads up!

[Kayak fisherman]

Wow! That came out of nowhere.:eek2: Thanks.

[Mike Avery]

wow.
thanks mike.
now can you just tell me when, what bait, how and for what fish!

just kidding.

thanks for the heads up!

The BSB are all over the wrecks now and biting just about anything you drop down. This closure sure does suck.

[MeOff]

The flounder bite is pretty good too!
Mike are you having a LOU moment or something? Can we expect I-pod cams next?I mean its very nice of you but don't you think a pm would have been in order? I know I'm just full of questions but.......

[Jrzrider83]

The flounder bite is pretty good too!
Mike are you having a LOU moment or something? Can we expect I-pod cams next?I mean its very nice of you but don't you think a pm would have been in order? I know I'm just full of questions but.......


How does this comment contribute to this thread?

[rgminer]

Some people are just more generous with their honey holes than others. Personally I don't believe in keeping secret spots for too long. Once I have fished a place a few times I will tell anyone who asks. Getting a thank you and seeing pics of fish they have caught from them is every bit as satisfying for me as if I went there are caught them myself. If I were feeding my family based on what I caught I might not, but I don't know anyone who relies only on their catch for food. Life is too short to keep spots to yourself. I catch plenty of fish all year long and there has never been a shortage of places to go...Sharing is just another way of enjoying our sport.

[MeOff]

How does this comment contribute to this thread?

I told him the Flounder were biting there now. Thats good information isn't it. He knows now that he can go there and catch something he can keep.Unlike the Seabass.
My other point was the numbers didn't need to be put on here to share with the INDIVIDUAL. All of the locations are OVERFISHED as it is. I share spots too just keep it a little more private. Posting them here for ALL to see is Mikes choice. He knows exactly what I mean and my Lou comment was in fun; He knows that too. LIGHTEN UP BRO!!

[Jrzrider83]

I told him the Flounder were biting there now. Thats good information isn't it. He knows now that he can go there and catch something he can keep.Unlike the Seabass.
My other point was the numbers didn't need to be put on here to share with the INDIVIDUAL. All of the locations are OVERFISHED as it is. I share spots too just keep it a little more private. Posting them here for ALL to see is Mikes choice. He knows exactly what I mean and my Lou comment was in fun; He knows that too. LIGHTEN UP BRO!!


There is nothing that i need to lighten up about.
just trying to keep the thread on topic and civil.

[cyruss Dog]

It's not like those are "Secret Spots" for crying out loud. Go buy a decent chart online and you can get numbers for the more popular wrecks like the Hanks, Santore, 44 fathom.....etc


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[jkapl001]

I had planed to go to each of these spots and fish each one until there are no fish left in the ocean....now that I have the numbers I can do just that.

Chill out guys. This is what makes TF worth looking at for a novice. Chances are if you are good enough to effect that actual fish population at a specific place....then you already have the numbers.

[Chumlord]

Jack, Mike beat me to it!!! In reality Brian (Jrzider83) fishes with me regularly so he has access to all my GPS numbers. If you need anything Brian let me know. Mike posting the numbers is very cool... to me anyway!!!! WTG!!!

[ehherman]

Thanks for helping others Mike that's what this board used to be about

[Mike Avery]

Those numbers, which are good, have been on the internet for years. They are on the pswsfa.com tips page. Lots of other good info there too. Check it out.

[Ketchup]

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[bookerreese]

Some people are just more generous with their honey holes than others. Personally I don't believe in keeping secret spots for too long. Once I have fished a place a few times I will tell anyone who asks. Getting a thank you and seeing pics of fish they have caught from them is every bit as satisfying for me as if I went there are caught them myself. If I were feeding my family based on what I caught I might not, but I don't know anyone who relies only on their catch for food. Life is too short to keep spots to yourself. I catch plenty of fish all year long and there has never been a shortage of places to go...Sharing is just another way of enjoying our sport.

here here !!!:clap::clapping2::thumbup:

[Chumlord]

I'm standing by!!!

[MeOff]

There is nothing that i need to lighten up about.
just trying to keep the thread on topic and civil.

I thought I was on topic..SORRY! I didn't realize you already fished with Lou. You must be the new number gathering guy.
Ketchup could you give a little more detail; I'm not understanding your relative point to the post at hand.

[smellslikefish]

To the origional question, no dont take internet #'s out there as game plan #1:wacko: Most of those Chesapeake Angler #'s have been converted from Loran to GPS, and to my knowledge, there is no good formula to convert them........They are normally way off. It's hard finding a 250' in a 1/4 square mile:yes:. Sometimes if I am fishing wrecks in a certain area, and have ''Maybe" wreck #'s close by, I may spend 1/2hr trying to find that wreck, since I'm already in that area. But you need to plan your day around "Known" #'s.

[Jrzrider83]

smellslikefish-

thanks for answering my actual question!

[Mike Avery]

Yes, agree with Smells, the Chesapeake Angler and Jim Baugh numbers they post on the interent are 90% crap. They seriously should just take them down as numbers that far off are almost impossible to find. Yes they will get you close and you may get lucky enough to run over the top of the wreck then you got a number but it's a long shot to find the wrecks using thier numbers. The numbers on VMRC reef page and the numbers on the PSWSFA.com page are good. I didn't really think I was giving away any secret spots. These are the well known wrecks with numbers that have been different sites for years (just don't use Chesapeake Angler and Jim Baugh #s). Many of the fish that inhabit wrecks are migratory with the exception of togs. Which means you really can't fish them out for flounder, seabass, bluefish, spades, jacks, etc. Deep dropping offshore is different. Most of those fish do not migrate so they can and do get fished out. I won't post deep drop numbers on the internet. And I won't post lesser known hangs I found or numbers given to me by friends. Tidalfish should be about helping people. I've received a lot of good information on tidalfish so just want to help out when I can.

[gordy]

On the contrary Mike, 3 of those numbers you posted are not good... they are close though so you may find it.

[NoName4]

Yes, agree with Smells, the Chesapeake Angler and Jim Baugh numbers they post on the interent are 90% crap. They seriously should just take them down as numbers that far off are almost impossible to find. Yes they will get you close and you may get lucky enough to run over the top of the wreck then you got a number but it's a long shot to find the wrecks using thier numbers. The numbers on VMRC reef page and the numbers on the PSWSFA.com page are good. I didn't really think I was giving away any secret spots. These are the well known wrecks with numbers that have been different sites for years (just don't use Chesapeake Angler and Jim Baugh #s). Many of the fish that inhabit wrecks are migratory with the exception of togs. Which means you really can't fish them out for flounder, seabass, bluefish, spades, jacks, etc. Deep dropping offshore is different. Most of those fish do not migrate so they can and do get fished out. I won't post deep drop numbers on the internet. And I won't post lesser known hangs I found or numbers given to me by friends. Tidalfish should be about helping people. I've received a lot of good information on tidalfish so just want to help out when I can.

Kinda have to hit you with the BS flag here, you gave easy known sites so you can be a hero/good guy to the neophyte wreck fisherman and keep them from your true sites that produce. With the exception of two of the sites you listed they are heavily dived and on any given weekend during the summer you can easily catch a vessel on it with a dive flag up or fishing. :nono: Like I've said before, new wreckers can't find them unless someone tells them/shows them where they are and old wreckers ain't gonna tell you where they go. Just a taste of the BS stuff.

[Mike Avery]

Kinda have to hit you with the BS flag here, you gave easy known sites so you can be a hero/good guy to the neophyte wreck fisherman and keep them from your true sites that produce. With the exception of two of the sites you listed they are heavily dived and on any given weekend during the summer you can easily catch a vessel on it with a dive flag up or fishing. :nono: Like I've said before, new wreckers can't find them unless someone tells them/shows them where they are and old wreckers ain't gonna tell you where they go. Just a taste of the BS stuff.

Hey dickhead. Why don't you stick your BS flag up your dark sinky place. Why do you have to label anyone as trying to be a hero or neophytes? Not trying to be a hero, just one angler helping another. Perhaps your vision is blury reading posts with your goggles on but if you take them off for a moment you will read that I said they are known sites. What's the deal with all the hate man? Are you one of the legions of tidal-idiots who only post to flame others and never contribute.

[NoName4]

Hey dickhead. Why don't you stick your BS flag up your dark sinky place. Why do you have to label anyone as trying to be a hero or neophytes? Not trying to be a hero, just one angler helping another. Perhaps your vision is blury reading posts with your goggles on but if you take them off for a moment you will read that I said they are known sites. What's the deal with all the hate man? Are you one of the legions of tidal-idiots who only post to flame others and never contribute.

I do not have to go to name calling to prove my point, you only posting known sites and not any of your true stuff is not being helpful but just want to be a good guy hero to those who do not know any sites hence they are a novice/ neophyte no disrespect just the truth. A private email to the guy would have been enough, but then you would not have been the good guy to ll the novice, I could see that with or without the goggles/mask. No I do not flame and yes I have told a few things but experience has showed me I do not need to wave my dick around to know just out big it is. I tend to keep quiet and share with those that deserve it. Please enjoy your retirement.

[Mike Avery]

I tend to keep quiet and share with those that deserve it.

Probably best you continue this trend if the only time you post is to flame. I don't understand how posting some well known numbers is waving my dick around but everybody in the DMV line is entitled to their opinions too.

[Jrzrider83]

well I guess this is all my fault....
I knew this would be a touchy subject as i said in my first post in this thread asking for help.
but I guess I was just being optimistic.
thank you to those of you who chose to contribute to the questions I asked.


I personally would appreciate it if someone who disagrees or has issue with the advice or help that someone is providing in a thread like this would please respectfully provide advice to the contrary or not post at all.

[gordy]

A good post, but your right... a touchy subject.

JT... can i be one of the people that deserves them?:thumbup:

[CRYSTAL_CLEAR_D]

Jack...you SOB...how dare you question Mike in what he does on TF? :D:D Way to go for helping him out, Mike...you're a HERO not a ZERO like some claim!

Sorry I came in late on this one as I REALLY wished I saw what Rob wrote...




Sean

[CRYSTAL_CLEAR_D]

Hey dickhead. Why don't you stick your BS flag up your dark sinky place. Why do you have to label anyone as trying to be a hero or neophytes? Not trying to be a hero, just one angler helping another. Perhaps your vision is blury reading posts with your goggles on but if you take them off for a moment you will read that I said they are known sites. What's the deal with all the hate man? Are you one of the legions of tidal-idiots who only post to flame others and never contribute.

Your heading down the path...don't drink the Kool-Aid...

I still can't stop laughing...



Sean

[NoName4]

Probably best you continue this trend if the only time you post is to flame. I don't understand how posting some well known numbers is waving my dick around but everybody in the DMV line is entitled to their opinions too.

You can always post your "favorite numbers" and move to the front of that DMV line. Bet you won't do that, you would certainly lose any hero status among fishing buddies. But you can always prove me wrong. Game? I'll help you...... Post the numbers to any wreck you want and I will tell everyone if it is right or not, I won't give them up you will do that. I will just confirm them. Come on hero lets help out them novice.

[NoName4]

A good post, but your right... a touchy subject.

JT... can i be one of the people that deserves them?:thumbup:

Well, I would help you out some, never on a public forum. You remember I wouldn't even give up the numbers to the wreck I had Jim go to that day when the bite was off on everything else. Now that I've known you a while it would be different, but there are numbers that I could never give up as they were passed with extreme rules and my word. I would confirm them if you asked but I could not give those up. There are no secret wrecks, just those that don't know about them. FWIW NOAA is in the process of exposing every known wreck site to google earth with correct numbers, I have seen the program. May be a few years yet. Imagine what will be going out there........striper season offshore. :eek2:

[alby man]

WHAT AN AZZ NONAME4 .

you need some numbers bmail me , I'll give you a list that will make your head spin .

[Mike Avery]

I'll help you...... Post the numbers to any wreck you want and I will tell everyone if it is right or not, I won't give them up you will do that. I will just confirm them.

Jim Barker, is this a good number? :D

36.829543,-76.375666 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=10+Pennington+Blvd,+Portsmouth,+VA+23701&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.808514,78.837891&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=10+Pennington+Blvd,+Portsmouth,+Virginia+237 01&ll=36.829898,-76.375623&spn=0.008588,0.02738&t=h&z=16)

[NoName4]

WHAT AN AZZ NONAME4 .

you need some numbers bmail me , I'll give you a list that will make your head spin .

Just post them on here that seems to be the trend of the clueless.

[NoName4]

Jim Barker, is this a good number? :D

36.829543,-76.375666 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=10+Pennington+Blvd,+Portsmouth,+VA+23701&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.808514,78.837891&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=10+Pennington+Blvd,+Portsmouth,+Virginia+237 01&ll=36.829898,-76.375623&spn=0.008588,0.02738&t=h&z=16)

Now that is funny

[captdavdavis01]

Hey, im just around the corner...uh... noname...


Danny

[MeOff]

Mike; Sean is right; I was just upset that you gave up ALL my numbers. I apologize. Gordy you know all those numbers are exact. Stop trying to throw off the brother fishermen. The Flounder are biting on one of them. REALLY.....

[Mike Avery]

Unbelievable just how many tidal-idiots threads like this bring out. How did it become you folks never have anything positive to say or contribute anymore and the only time you post is to smart off to show us just how much of a dumb-ass you can be. I'm done with this thread but I'm sure you tidal-idiots will be scanning all my future posts waiting to show off your intelligence. Just be warned, I derive just a small amount of pleasure to make you self-aware of your tidal-idiot status when you choose let it show through. :D :pp

[MeOff]

It is more unbelievable how you can't understand that posting wreck numbers here to areas that have been OVERFISHED (NOT FISHED OUT); as a way of good will to others that might not be as up on these areas as others. Yes these are easily obtainable if you do a little research. Why not let them do their homework? The learning portion of wreck fishing will take them a lot further and they will become better at it from their own explorations and experiences. Three years ago these areas would have been great to share because the guys your trying to help out could pull up on them and catch QUALITY fish in good numbers. Now go there and your throw back ratio will 70% more than your keepers. Is that really good information? I actually feel kinda bad knowing these guys are going to go there with high expectations; spending lots of money in the process and find out for themselves these spots have been hit hard. If all they want is practice venting fish; maybe you should go over that too, I guess they'll be happy.
As I stated earlier; I have helped numerous INDIVIDUALS with wreck numbers, just not on the open forum. That is what PM is for. You can call me all the childish names you can come up with; JACK is very easy to make bad names out of, try thinking a little more and let your creative inners come out like ANAL CAVITY PARASITE. See that actually takes some thought; doesn't it?

[NoName4]

"Elvis has left the building".....:hysterical:

[Ketchup]

Butt Bug (Anal Cavity Parasite), nasty critters.

[MeOff]

Butt Bug (Anal Cavity Parasite), nasty critters.

I see you've had them too!!!!!:D:D:D

[Rock On]

Since I missed the Jake and Lou thread IN BEFORE THE LOCK :)

[Ketchup]

Yes Jack, I had them recently. I had them so bad they spread to the groin area, you might want to get yourself checked...


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ALSO, in before the lock:yes:

[MeOff]

I believe Those are different critters; they perfer lighter areas, I'm thinking more like GOLDENBALLZZINGERS.

[gordy]

Damn Rob... are you implying you may have passed some critters on to Jack?

[MeOff]

Damn Rob... are you implying you may have passed some critters on to Jack?
Don't base me and Ketchup on your RELATIONSHIP with Gus:eek2::eek2: