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FishHook321
10-25-2005, 12:52 AM
I just saw this on-line. What do you guys think of it? I'm in favor of it. You can fish on Sundays so why not hunt. I know I may be opening a can of worms but we'll see.
http://www.petitiononline.com/SHV/petition.html
Sea-Ya
10-25-2005, 04:27 AM
I favor no hunting on Sunday.The dogs and I both need a rest day and if you could hunt on Sunday I would have to hunt Sunday.[grin]
nicbuc
10-25-2005, 05:01 AM
If you're not gonna go to church you may as well hunt.
rapprunner
10-25-2005, 06:07 AM
Bring it on! Only thing that they should do; however, is just let you hunt with the cross bow on Sunday------just kidding[grin]
I am kinda on the fence on this one. As much as I like to hunt and would like every opportunity to be in the woods I tend to agree with Jeff---we need a day to rest. Oh well, we'll see.
kepone cats
10-25-2005, 06:47 AM
I do not like it. God is worthy to be praised. Do not wait for 6 strong men and a black Cadillac to take you to church. To much hunting or fishing or anything which directs our attention from God becomes an idol. Idolitry is a sin. -Kepone
rapprunner
10-25-2005, 07:18 AM
kepone cats originally wrote:
I do not like it. God is worthy to be praised. Do not wait for 6 strong men and a black Cadillac to take you to church. To much hunting or fishing or anything which directs our attention from God becomes an idol. Idolitry is a sin. -Kepone
Good point; however, just because one COULD potentially hunt on Sunday does not mean he HAS to. We all make choices---so if a true Christian who is faithful to God does not want to hunt on Sunday then that is his choice, no one can MAKE him hunt on Sunday. Maybe that will just test one's faith even further. What is the difference in hunting on Sunday than any other activity that people participate in (i.e. fishing, golfing, boating, NASCAR)? Like I said each individual has the right to choose how thay want to spend their time, leagalizing Sunday hunting won't impact your salvation one bit. Just live and let live.[smile]
TKBMECH
10-25-2005, 07:53 AM
My wife complains I am never home now, Huntin on sunday.... oh lord the divorce rate would skyrocket! [wink]
done workin
10-25-2005, 08:36 AM
MD is starting to allow it bit by bit, I wish they would they would just go all out and do it.
My biggest push for sunday hunting is to allow a "make up" day for those saturdays when it's blowing 30 MPH and raining and sunday it's calm and clear after that front, or if there are family obligations that prevent a saturday hunt. There's no better opportunity then the day after a nasty windy rainy day. Can't wait 'til tomorrow morning. ML does, mmmmmmmmmm.
Hunting is about priorities and where you put them. Church, family, work, honey do's etc. You make the time when you make the decision to make the time.
I had alwasy heard the sundayhunting was banned because the farmers wanted a break from people being on their land. If that's true then they should just give permission to hunt but no sundays allowed.
fordbjr
10-25-2005, 10:06 AM
You have a better chance to see God than ever hunt legally on a Sunday
Big Cat
10-25-2005, 10:35 AM
kepone cats originally wrote:
I do not like it. God is worthy to be praised. Do not wait for 6 strong men and a black Cadillac to take you to church. To much hunting or fishing or anything which directs our attention from God becomes an idol. Idolitry is a sin. -Kepone
Completely irrelevant in my opinion. If your only thinking of God on Sunday you are already messing up. If you want to go to church then go, you can hunt that afternoon. If you want to do your praying and worshiping from the tree stand then do that.
earlyriser
10-25-2005, 10:46 AM
We went through this last year so somebody can pull up that thread. I might could understand if deer season only lasted a total of maybe a month, but in Virginia General Archery Season comes in the first Saturday in October and the last day to hunt deer generally is what the first Saturday in January. These are general dates, some areas allow deer hunting to start earlier and some areas dont close deer season until later. I dont know about some of you guys but once January roles around I am tired of hunting and I dont even hunt every single d
I do have to support Kepones post also, in the history of Va the Bible was a key in determining rules and regs. We just seem to be one of the last still banning hunting on Sunday.
All for it, I thank god every time I have the chance to hunt, I may be waisting my time if god only listens on Sunday. I travel 2.50 hours to hunt quality private land and it would be nice to have an extra day on the weekend. The Sunday hunt law change a few years back in West Virginia, it is only open in some counties on private land only.
kepone cats
10-25-2005, 11:15 AM
The animals need a rest too! I would hate to see orange hats along Rt. 5 every day of the week until early January. I do not know what I would do. By the third week of gun season I am ready for it all to end. I generally tag out with a bow and muzzleloader anyhow. There should be one day where hunters do not feel obligated to hunt and this is done by making sunday a no hunting day. Spend the time resting, serving at church somehow, attending church, cookouts with family or whatever. [shy]
RANGER690
10-25-2005, 11:47 AM
Give the individual the choice.
Quit forcing others to play by your standards.
Dayton
rapprunner
10-25-2005, 11:58 AM
kepone cats originally wrote:
The animals need a rest too! I would hate to see orange hats along Rt. 5 every day of the week until early January. I do not know what I would do. By the third week of gun season I am ready for it all to end. I generally tag out with a bow and muzzleloader anyhow. There should be one day where hunters do not feel obligated to hunt and this is done by making sunday a no hunting day. Spend the time resting, serving at church somehow, attending church, cookouts with family or whatever. [shy]
Seems to me that just because you don't want it you want everyone else to not want it ---- well too bad. Like I said earlier you don't have to hunt on Sunday. Go to church if that is what you want to do, no one will force YOU to hunt. And if you tag out so early why do you even care? To each his own, LIVE and LET LIVE. Don't try to force your convictions on other people. That is one thing that makes me crazy about most church folks. Just cause they think a certain activity, beverage, lifestyle etc is wrong, then IT MUST BE WRONG. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kepone cats
10-25-2005, 12:11 PM
Poor deer. Poor critters.
Greedy plump white men tend to view VA's wildlife in the same manner they view the all-U- can eat restaurant. They just do not know when to quit!
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rapprunner
10-25-2005, 12:22 PM
kepone cats originally wrote:
Poor deer. Poor critters.
Greedy plump white men tend to view VA's wildlife in the same manner they view the all-U- can eat restaurant. They just do not know when to quit!
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Greedy????? Why do you boast about tagging out, seems to me you might be a little greedy---just an observation. [grin][grin]
kepone cats
10-25-2005, 01:30 PM
I prefer to use the terms successfullness, skillfullness or effective in the field rather than greedy. If I was greedy I would kill 15-20 deer and not tag them like some people in VA do. I would also not watch does and small bucks feed around my stand for hours and then let them walk off if I were greedy. Deer deserve one day of the week during the season to rest and not be shot at or be chased by walkers and beagles. I shot a deer last year in front of dogs that was so tired from running its muscles were locked up and tight. I contribute my success to hunting deer in the early season before shotgun bubba and his dogs enter the woods.
Just my thoughts, Kepone
Mightyrjq
10-25-2005, 01:31 PM
My wife is against it...
TIDECRUIZER
10-25-2005, 01:51 PM
I lived out in Jackson Hole Wy for a while, and when I told people it was illegal to hunt on Sundays, everyone acted like I was crazy.
It was perfectly legal and not everyone hunted on Sundays. And it made for less people in the woods at any particular time because not everyone was crammed into just hunting Saturdays. It made the weekends just like a weekdays.
Think about how much more money for the state would be generated by simply allowing people to hunt one extra day a week!!!!!!!! People would travel more, buy more food, more people would buy more supplies simply for the chance of going.
I favor it, and have signed the petition.
God has nothing to do with it.
Jim Bright
10-25-2005, 02:09 PM
All my friends want Sunday hunting legalalized in MD -- so do I.
Durado
10-25-2005, 02:33 PM
If it is a religious factor as to why we can not hunt on Sunday then it is in direct violation of your 1st amendment rights. Any state or county need only have it stated and written as such, or proposed as such on the record by an offical of the state or county in order for a good lawyer to free your right to hunt on Sunday.
----Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ----
derek g
10-25-2005, 03:42 PM
I have advocated it for years. Every other state I hunted before moving here we could hunt Sundays. I still go to minnesota to hunt the early duck season and I wouldnt go if I could only hunt saturday. I guarantee that the food and lodging establishments would love to see sunday hunting as their numbers would expand dramatically during the typically slower hunting season.
During the late season when the ice starts to form, a day or two can be the difference between a whole lot of birds and nothing. A Sunday could be that day!
eastduck
10-25-2005, 04:57 PM
Let us hunt on Sunday. Many of us work all week and the weekends are the only time we have to hunt. When I go to church it is at 6:00 - 7:00 on Sat. nights anyway. Look at the new hunters now numbers are down because of all the regulations.
RKOCH
10-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Why do I have to go to church to worship GOD!!!!! Why can't I worship GOD anyplace I want. It is about believing in his word and doing such. When it said keep Sunday the sabath and not work I take that to mean do something you like to relax and rest and me that is hunt!!! Lets do it!!!![excited]
If its your property or the owner of the property doesn't mind, then nothing else should matter. People who use the excuse they want a day to be able to nature walk or ride horses without being shot at, WELL STAY OFF MY PROPERTY !
Big Cat
10-25-2005, 07:23 PM
RKOCH originally wrote:
Why do I have to go to church to worship GOD!!!!! Why can't I worship GOD anyplace I want. It is about believing in his word and doing such. When it said keep Sunday the sabath and not work I take that to mean do something you like to relax and rest and me that is hunt!!! Lets do it!!!![excited]
For once I actually agree with you. Well said!
eastduck
10-25-2005, 09:13 PM
I actually agree too. I do worship in nature more than the church.
alby man
10-26-2005, 06:50 AM
I used to have a six day week job , sunday was the only day I had off . it makes it had to be able to hunt on weekends .
HI TIDES DRIFTER
10-26-2005, 10:24 AM
The Commonwealth of Virginia will probably be the last state in the United States to allow Sunday hunting! As for me I'm glad the deer are able to get a break. I have worked 7 days a week for over 5yrs now with an ocasional weekend off when I wanted it, but to allow hunting on sunday hunting is not much different than fishing on sunday. I'm sure all the holy rollers never fish on sunday either. If the choice of no dog hunting-vs- sunday hunting was up for a vote I would vote for sunday hunting. Until that day comes Virginia will not allow it. The D.G.I.F. curently uses sunday to to limit total hunting days on every animal and game bird we hunt. The dog hunters won't leave them alone after the season goes out now. They even have field trials up until the does get ready to drop their baby's. I couldn't imagine what hunting on sunday would be like if they did allow it. Would churches have zoned areas around them? Would hunters stand the roads in front of the church as they do on saturdays?
Just My Opinion,
Bill[angel][angel]
Poulter Guys
10-26-2005, 08:46 PM
Very bad idea to legalize hunting on Sunday. Hunting season is short enough already. If hunting was legal on Sunday, the hunting season would have to be shortened to half of its present length , because of the deer harvest on Sunday. Not to mention the number of trophy bucks would be drastically reduced. After a few years of hunting on Sunday the deer herd would be drastically reduced, and deer sightings while hunting would be poor.
Poulter Guys
10-26-2005, 08:46 PM
Very bad idea to legalize hunting on Sunday. Hunting season is short enough already. If hunting was legal on Sunday, the hunting season would have to be shortened to half of its present length , because of the deer harvest on Sunday. Not to mention the number of trophy bucks would be drastically reduced. After a few years of hunting on Sunday the deer herd would be drastically reduced, and deer sightings while hunting would be poor.
Poulter Guys
10-26-2005, 08:47 PM
Very bad idea to legalize hunting on Sunday. Hunting season is short enough already. If hunting was legal on Sunday, the hunting season would have to be shortened to half of its present length , because of the deer harvest on Sunday. Not to mention the number of trophy bucks would be drastically reduced. After a few years of hunting on Sunday the deer herd would be drastically reduced, and deer sightings while hunting would be poor.
Poulter Guys
10-26-2005, 08:48 PM
Very bad idea to legalize hunting on Sunday. Hunting season is short enough already. If hunting was legal on Sunday, the hunting season would have to be shortened to half of its present length , because of the deer harvest on Sunday. Not to mention the number of trophy bucks would be drastically reduced. After a few years of hunting on Sunday the deer herd would be drastically reduced, and deer sightings while hunting would be poor.
Poulter Guys
10-26-2005, 09:09 PM
Tidecruizer, don't think about the revenue to the state, God knows they get enough of my money. Don't think about the greedy hunters that call themselves sportsmen. Thank about the most important thing, the health of our deer herd. Just like fishing we need to protect, and preserve our sport. We have the ability to wipe out our deer herd with increased hunting pressure. I enjoy hunting as much is anyone, but we need to be conservative to preserve our sport. Much more important we need to maintain our present herd!!!
RKOCH
10-26-2005, 09:39 PM
To hell we are talking keeping the same season length and adding sundays more hunting days. In NC they start sep 1 that is a longer season than adding sunday here and they kill the hell out of deer.
Big Cat
10-26-2005, 09:42 PM
Having Sunday hunting dosent mean we kill more deer we still have bag limits. If you want to give the deer a rest make illegal to hunt on Monday or something.
ketch69
10-26-2005, 11:02 PM
They get to rest for 8 months as it is. I'm all for hunting on Sunday. A large bunch of us Va. Hunters only get to hunt on Saturday so another day on the weekend would be great in my book.
DEAN
ketch69
10-26-2005, 11:08 PM
How about every Sunday being a Antlerless only day? Our deer herd is a little larger than it needs to be and having a few doe only days could help keep it in check not to mention it would make for bigger bucks in the future. I still say we need to practice selective harvest in our state a lot more than we do.
I personally challenge every TF member to let a small buck walk this year. It will make you proud!!!
DEAN
frayedknot
10-26-2005, 11:50 PM
Godless heathen's ! shame on yall for even thinkin about huntin on the sabbath ! unless it's that double drop tine twevle point surry buck!
No sunday huntin!
FishHook321
10-27-2005, 01:10 AM
Poulter, how in the heck did you come up with all that. Like someone else said, there will still be limits. So there will not be a nedd to shorten the season. The Va. deer heard is still growing in most counties and could use a little thining. The idea that game needs a day of rest is foolish. Just because you can hunt on Sunday doesn't mean everyone will, to each his own. It will just allow some to hunt that may not be able to during the week.
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 01:40 AM
You guys are savages.
RANGER690
10-27-2005, 06:59 AM
If God didn't want you to hunt on Sunday, there would have been an 11th Commandment.
Dayton
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 07:42 AM
There is no need to hunt on Sunday, you should be able to harvest what you want before the end of season. I can understand maybe if you cant shoot that good or not a good hunter, but other than that come on. Seriously guys how many deer do you need to kill?
Big Cat
10-27-2005, 07:46 AM
As said twice before it has nothing to do with the number of deer I am going to kill. It's all about being able to hunt when I want and when I have time and not having saomebody tell me when I can and cannot hunt during the season.
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 07:49 AM
So why not hunt all year long. Or heck hunt all night long. The rules are there to govern hunting so that there is a set standard. If you dont want to be governed about when or when you cannot hunt, then why not be a proponent of hunting deer at night with a spotlight, or hunting 365 days a year. These are rules that tell you when you cannot hunt. What about that little rule, hunting can begin 30 minutes before sunrise, what if big boy is under your stand with one minute left you gonna shoot or not shoot.
HI TIDES DRIFTER
10-27-2005, 08:05 AM
This is the Commonwealth Of Virginia guys, you have about as much chance of getting to hunt on Sunday as you do the 4th of July.
If if's and but's were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 08:11 AM
78% of landowners oppose Sunday hunting.
Stickin Em
10-27-2005, 08:12 AM
I would NOT shoot.
FishHook321
10-27-2005, 08:26 AM
Riser, you're getting way out there in left field now. No one is saying hunt year round. We all now about fawning season and all the other pitfalls of what overharvesting causes as well as the ethics of "night hunting". No one is asking for the season to be extended, just to give people a choice to when they can hunt. Just becuase a law would allow hunting does not mean that everyone out there would do it, just as not every fisherman doesn't fish on Sunday. As far as 78% of the landowners not wanting to allow Sunday hunting, I'd like to know where you got your "FACTS" from. There is plenty of public land and landowners I know of that have no preference. I agree with others that the chances of this passing are slim, but you'll never know until you try.
Scott McGuire
10-27-2005, 08:28 AM
Yep... I am definetly a savage.
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 08:36 AM
The 78% comes from the VDGIF minutes on Sunday hunting. I know I am out in left field, but thats what I think of Sunday hunting. The comment was made that they dont like rules that govern when they can hunt, I was being sarcastic and just throwing some other rules that govern when they cannot hunt. Seems to me that some people straddle the fence. If Sunday hunting is allowed then that will add an addition 2 weeks in some areas of Virginia, to hunt.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/info/board_meetings/102104_Final_Minutes.pdf
In the year 2000, 67% of landowners disapproved of hunting on Sunday's while only 13% strongly agreed to hunting on Sundays.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/info/HB38_Final_Report.html
RANGER690
10-27-2005, 09:55 AM
I think there should not be a law against it. If an individual does not wish to hunt (or have hunters on his property) on sunday, that is fine. But if one wishes to, it should not be prohibited by law.
The game harvest equation would be simple enough to input an extra day, and thus adjust if needed. I still don't see that anything would need to change. We still have individual buck harvest limits and unlimited does tags. Over harvest of does would not be an issue for a few years at least. Then, back to the old 3-5 total tags.
Most years I only take one deer. The last few years I have let a bunch of deer walk. I am liking it. I still get away and hunt. But no dragging, cleaning, cutting, storing. But if the big one comes by, I will try it. Then I just have to find someone to take the meat.
Dayton
RANGER690
10-27-2005, 09:57 AM
Almost forget, I will take the 1 min before shot. No problem. Never know whos clock is right. One minute is now sweat for me.
Dayton
HI TIDES DRIFTER
10-27-2005, 10:03 AM
Curently we have 56 days excluding Sundays and urban archery season in most counties east of the Blue Ridge Mountains. You would think that was enough for everyone to fill the freezer. Maybe you guys that want to hunt on Sundays should get a crossbow, they say they are so easy the deer don't have a chance.
If you want to hunt on Sunday, why not move to a state that allows it, or just plan a trip to one. As I have said before this is the Commonwealth -common-wealth of everybody in the state, not just a bunch of savage hunters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FISH ON SUNDAYS INSTEAD,
BILL
rapprunner
10-27-2005, 10:23 AM
HI TIDES DRIFTER originally wrote:
Curently we have 56 days excluding Sundays and urban archery season in most counties east of the Blue Ridge Mountains. You would think that was enough for everyone to fill the freezer. Maybe you guys that want to hunt on Sundays should get a crossbow, they say they are so easy the deer don't have a chance.
If you want to hunt on Sunday, why not move to a state that allows it, or just plan a trip to one. As I have said before this is the Commonwealth -common-wealth of everybody in the state, not just a bunch of savage hunters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FISH ON SUNDAYS INSTEAD,
BILL
Bill,
What about Sunday hunting makes someone a savage?? What about the poor sap that only has Saturday's and holidays? Is he a savage because he would like a little added hunting time?
linesiderfighter
10-27-2005, 10:46 AM
I'd like to see Sunday hunting in VA and MD. It is now allowed on private land in MD as a pilot project. Sunday hunting is allowed in WV so why not here? I grew up out west in Wyoming and all the states out there allow Sunday hunting.
Shawn
earlyriser
10-27-2005, 10:57 AM
lmao, Dayton you ever shot a deer by the light of a full moon, now that is a challenge you guys ought to try it once.
RANGER690
10-27-2005, 11:40 AM
I have shot a few deer with the moon overhead! No need to wait for a full one.
Dayton
TIDECRUIZER
10-27-2005, 12:13 PM
I dont know where the hell the state got its numbers of landowners opposing Sunday hunting. Thats freaking stupid. When was the last time anyone got a call asking anyone if they oppose Sunday hunting???
I know I never have, and no one I know has either. That must have been the numbers Wilder and PETA thought up.
I know for a fact that in the western part of the state from Augusta county all the way down to Giles county, many landowners hunt on their own land anyway, regardless of the law, day of the week or season. To most of those people, its food for their family. Its been like that forever.
And as far as the deer population is concerned, there may be a higher harvest, but the overall health of the herd would improve. I know that in Highland and Bath counties, the deer are so overpopulated its sick. I have hunted days and seen over 100 deer per day (and no that doesnt mean I killed all of them, or any of them for that matter). Ther have been many years while spring bird hunting, I would find as many as 20 winter kill...how is that for herd health? And ther season is only 10 days long with only 2 doe days. How much sense does that make??? Ther are more deer in those counties than people.
Damn, some of you guys act like the state would make everyone hunt on Sundays. Why do we fish on Sundays. We kill fish; whats the difference. I know if I had a choice, I would much rather be shot on Sunday than left gasping for my last breath in a fishbox.
Poulter Guys
10-27-2005, 02:16 PM
There may be a few counties with a higher density of deer than there was 10 years ago but that's mainly because of habitat loss. No one thought we could wipe out striped bass either, but we were very close to doing just that. I been hunting in Virginia for 40 years and I know for a fact that deer herd is down in many counties. Years ago no one wanted to shoot a doe, presently we harvest too many does without concern. Where do we thank our future animals come from? Walmart. I respect the ethical hunters that never take a poor shot, that let small bucks grow to become big bucks. Deer are magnificent animals, not targets! If we want to protect our deer hunting heritage, and these magnificent animals we showed band together to preserve the very deer habitat we are destroying.
RANGER690
10-27-2005, 02:36 PM
Will you please post the names of the counties in which the deer populations are down?
Thanks,
Dayton
rapprunner
10-27-2005, 02:56 PM
Poulter Guys originally wrote:
There may be a few counties with a higher density of deer than there was 10 years ago but that's mainly because of habitat loss. No one thought we could wipe out striped bass either, but we were very close to doing just that. I been hunting in Virginia for 40 years and I know for a fact that deer herd is down in many counties. Years ago no one wanted to shoot a doe, presently we harvest too many does without concern. Where do we thank our future animals come from? Walmart. I respect the ethical hunters that never take a poor shot, that let small bucks grow to become big bucks. Deer are magnificent animals, not targets! If we want to protect our deer hunting heritage, and these magnificent animals we showed band together to preserve the very deer habitat we are destroying.
From what I have read the overall population is "blossoming". I can remember 25 years ago the VDGIF estimated the herd in the state to be at 500,000 animals----today it is estimated to be between 800,000 to 1 MILLION. So, like Ranger said---quote some numbers about the decline in population.
FishHook321
10-27-2005, 03:07 PM
When I started this thread I was looking to have some rational exhange of ideas. I knew it would be opening a can of worms, but wasn't expecting some of the off the wall reason for not having Sunday as a hunting day. Using some of the dumb reasons given I'll state a case to "Ban Fishing" on Sunday. The fish need a day of rest, there is too much presure on them 7 days a week and we'll over harvest them. Therefore, any fish that has a creel/size limit can not be caught of Sunday, just like that placed on hunters. Also, since we're supposed to be in church, we shouldn't be out fishing. The latest poll shows that 78% of the people that run marinas and own ponds don't want us to fish on Sunday. Studies have shown that since fish populations are decreasing and Wal-Mart isn't replacing them a Sunday ban will help to counteract the effects of 7 day a week fishing.
I know the above sounds utterly stupid, but thats the same reasoning that most of the anti-Sunday-hunting responses have used. No one is going to make Sunday hunting mandatory, it's just a matter of choice and chance. It doesn't make anyone a savage, it simply allows one to enjoy what could very well be thier only day off. Oh, I almost forgot, if you don't like the Sunday ban on fishing, move to a state where you can fish on Sunday.
ketch69
10-27-2005, 09:14 PM
Poulter Guys
I also would like to know what counties in Va. have low deer populations. Just because you ain't seeing them don't mean they ain't there. You are also mistaken on killing does. We need a better balanced herd. Look at the other stated where a lot of big bucks come from and see what the buck to doe ratio is.
I say it hunting on Sunday is a bid no no how about we outlaw fishing on Sunday and close fishing season for 8 months out of the year. How much stink would that raise?
DEAN
earlyriser
10-28-2005, 05:04 AM
Sussex has a low deer herd, from over hunting in areas!! We went from the 90's having deer damage in the crops every summer to the 2000's not having the deer damage, there arent the deer around causing the damage as there use to be. The deer herd has decrease because of over hunting, this is the very reason I dont like the thought of Sunday hunting. The VDGIF ranks Sussex as a low density deer herd county. The old saying, "you give someone an inch and they take a mile." You give the hunters an extra day to hunt and there will be people that hunt seven days a week. There are already clubs down here that hunt 6 days a week, season long. They shoot at every single deer that comes by them and I dont agree with it. Manage the herd, like my club has done and restrict the number of hunting days in the club therefor not chasing the deer two counties over but actually drawing the deer into the land we hunt. Our club basically bow hunts, and deer dog hunts, one guy muzzleloader hunts and he gets a hard time about that. There are only three of us that bow hunt.
As for the Sunday fishing, they could close it, I could careless, even though I love fishing.
HI TIDES DRIFTER
10-28-2005, 05:05 AM
Fishhook, You are right, this topic has gone away from what was intended,but we know who's joking and who's not. What Earlyriser quoted about land owners was taken from min. of a meeting. Maybe nobody knew they were having the meeting. Same goes for the crossbow meeting, only 2 or 3 people were against them and a bunch for them.
Earlyriser, The savage thing was a joke as it was in your post I think. I guess I'm old school when it comes to hunting on Sun. I could relate to the guys that only have Sun. off if I didn't work 7 days a week and still fill my freezer with deer and flounder. So basically if we add 13 more days to the season whats the harm. It's a shame that we can't just agree to disagree.
Fishhook, I don't really need to hunt on Sun, and I don't really care if they were to pass it. I have hunyed in Va. for over 30 years with 5 different clubs and never heard anybody ever say "they wish they could hunt tomorrow", in the skinning shed on Sat. night. They probably didn't go fishing either. We all get so wrapped up in the quest for the monster buck that it's good to take a break once a week and spend some time with the family. But once it were to pass you would have to go because you might miss your chance of a lifetime,but the other guys didn't.
To all the guys that have to work on Sat. save some vacation time, because you live in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Enjoy the great outdoors when you have the chance, and take a kid hunting or fishing whenever you can.
Fishhook, If you can get them to ban fishing for flounder on Sun. I'm all for it, those fish could use a day of rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Final 2 Cents,
BILL
choptank
10-28-2005, 08:30 PM
I guarentee our employers would love to see Sunday hunting so we would not have to call off work as much just because the weathers right and every hunter is not in the woods all on a Saturday at once.
No matter what topic you bring up there are always going to be opinions. Mine is lets start off slow lets propose Sunday archery antlerless only to get going. The peak of the rut is typicaly only 5 days if the weather and moon are right eventualy Sunday archery could give the opportunity to take a buck of a life time just because of that extre day during peak rut...COUNT ME IN as well as every hunter I know!!!![excited][excited]
choptank
10-28-2005, 09:05 PM
Anyone find a Maryland form to sign?
stripermd
10-28-2005, 10:58 PM
Why would you not support hunting on sunday?
Late Riser
10-30-2005, 09:17 AM
Well everybody needs a break sometime including the deer. Instead of going hunting spend time with your family and firends. Stop chasing the dang deer around and give them time to rest up before you go running around again for another 6 days. Beside remember those does are caring around future monster bucks. Shoot one on Sunday that might not have gotten killed and you'll kill a future Boone and Crockett. I raise my hat to easrlyriser. "Here Here" Sunday Hunting supporters you are all blood thirsty butchers[smile]!!
RANGER690
10-30-2005, 09:31 AM
Please don't tell me how to spend my Sunday. You spend yours, I will take care of mine.
The deer don't get a rest on Sunday, because half the dogs let out on Saturday are still out tormenting them.
Outlaw dog hunting. Then give us 7 days for real hunters.
Dayton
choptank
10-30-2005, 11:01 AM
Blood thirsty butcher huh? How about this.. ethical hunters who appreciate nature and love spending time outdoors and not in an office or job site? Hunters who spend their hard earned money on lisences and stamps to help conserve nature and some people depend on hunting to feed their family.
When giving opinions you realy should not bash fellow hunters Blood thirsty butcher sounds purely terrible among outdoorsmen.
earlyriser
10-30-2005, 01:56 PM
Just stirring the pot boys[grin][grin][grin], love messing with peoples minds. Crazy to see what happens when people start threating or talking about their favorite past time. I think they should just keep hunting the same as it has always been, it aint broke dont fix it. Shot all the deer you guys want I know on the 6000 acres I hunt we will continue managing the deer herd and only hunting certain number of days. And never ever get rid of hunting with dogs, that is a southern tradition, take away a tradition and everything is ruined. Hunting with dogs is something that has taken place in my family for many generations and many generations throughout Virginia.
Sea-Ya
10-30-2005, 04:45 PM
Who let the dogs out,woff,woff?
Poulter Guys
10-30-2005, 07:48 PM
You know what the worst part of this thread is? As I stated earlier the most damaging thing to deer hunting is habitat loss. No one else has even mention that. I'm not talking a bout my lifetime, but for generations to come. I hunt because I love the outdoors, and the wildlife, not just to kill something. Saturday I passed up two 6 pointers , I did not harvest any thing but had a great day. We must protect our deer hunting heritage, by protecting wildlife habitat, and not overhunting our game animals.
earlyriser
10-30-2005, 07:58 PM
Thats a great point Poulter, the way land is being developed in the country now ,generations to come will have to deal with less and less deer habitat. It burns me up when farms get sold to developers. I love it though when farms and other tracts of land get sold to guys that want it to hunt, there is a sense of knowing there is another piece of land just saved from developement. IP is getting ready to dump 10's of thousands of acres of land, I wish I was financially able to purchase all that I could to help preserve our heritage.
Late Riser
10-31-2005, 10:18 AM
Well its good to see how vocal we are here on this board. Being vocal here doesn't mean a thing write your state rep. and show your support. I never told anybody to do anything. I just made a suggestion. Deer hunting will come and go but being with my wife and watching my son grow up is priceless. I already have two rocking chairs hanging on my wallls so what if I kill another. I will hunt when I have the chanceI think its good to stir up the pot every now and again.
I have hunted with dogs for a long time and have enjoyed it. However, if they outlaw dog hunting so be it. Not going to hurt me one bit. I rather sit in a tree anyway.
FishHook321
10-31-2005, 10:55 AM
Late Riser is right, if you do support the effort to allow hunting on Sunday, go to the orginal post and click on the link and sign up. I'm not sure I'd even hunt on Sunday, but it would be nice to know the option is there.[excited]
kepone cats
10-31-2005, 12:00 PM
You guys make me weak.
rapprunner
10-31-2005, 12:52 PM
kepone cats originally wrote:
You guys make me weak.
Maybe you are already weak! You by the way make me wonder why you worry so much about something that you will not have to participate in if you choose not too. What is your problem---just LIVE and LET LIVE. You should keep on doing your thing and worry less about what others do or want.
Regards.