View Full Version : Gulf Oil Spill affect on boat sales
Rod Bender II
05-28-2010, 11:44 AM
I was just brainstorming while eating my lunch and reading the news about the oil spill and its forecasted affects. Will we see a lot of boaters trying to get rid of their boats because they will no longer be any good use to them with oil in the water and no fish to catch? I was really only thinking of this because I will soon be in the market for a 25' to 28' CC boat and NC and FL are my go to states for nice fully loaded offshore CC's. The way some scientist are talking this oil spill could take decades to go away and not to mention if a hurricane were to sweep the gulf how that would spread the spillage....possibly even up our way:eek2:...Also I feel bad for the guys that will experience their boat being covered in oil and basically ruined. Because BP isn't going to send them a check to reimburse them for their claim.
Just wanted to see what you guys think.....
this is the worst man made disaster I've ever seen or heard of.
I heard someone describe this as "apocalyptic"
I agree
C-Hawk18
05-29-2010, 10:53 PM
this is the worst man made disaster I've ever seen or heard of.
Were you still in diapers in 1991? Remember Kuwait? (not even 1/10 yet)
1. Kuwait - 1991 - 520 million gallons. Iraqi forces opened the valves of several oil tankers in order to slow the invasion of American troops. The oil slick was four inches thick and covered 4000 square miles of ocean.
Probably no old enough for Mexico...
2. Mexico - 1980 - 100 million gallons. An accident in an oil well caused an explosion which then caused the well to collapse. The well remained open, spilling 30,000 gallons a day into the ocean for a full year.
How about the year before that...
3. Trinidad and Tobago - 1979 - 90 million gallons. During a tropical storm off the coast of Trinidad and Tobago, a Greek oil tanker collided with another ship, and lost nearly its entire cargo.
Or what about the rest of the 10 ten.......wait....maybe our "Chicken Little" media will finally make the top 10 (not "Disasters" but just oil spills).....the sky is falling....the sky is falling......
4. Russia - 1994 - 84 million gallons. A broken pipeline in Russia leaked for eight months before it was noticed and repaired.
5. Persian Gulf - 1983 - 80 million gallons. A tanker collided with a drilling platform which, eventually, collapsed into the sea. The well continued to spill oil into the ocean for seven months before it was repaired.
6. South Africa - 1983 - 79 million gallons. A tanker cought fire and was abandoned before sinking 25 miles off the coast of Saldanha Bay.
7. France - 1978 - 69 million gallons. A tanker's rudder was broken in a severe storm, despite several ships responding to its distress call, the ship ran aground and broke in two. Its entire payload was dumped into the English Channel.
8. Angola - 1991 - more than 51 million gallons. The tanker expolded, exact quantity of spill unknown
9. Italy - 1991 - 45 million gallons The tanker exploded and sank off the coast of Italy and continued leaking its oil into the ocean for 12 years.
10. Odyssey Oil Spill - 1988 - 40 million gallons. 700 nautical miles off the cost of Nova Scotia.
C-Hawk18
05-30-2010, 07:21 AM
wow thats a lot of oil
Would you rather be hearing words like "Meltdown" & "Fallout" ?
America's dependence on fossil fuel is gonna be a tough habit to break. We have trouble changing simple things. As long as we're relying on oil, I think the drilling will continue. I agree with you, this is not chicken little stuff. Listing other similar disasters might give some people solace, but I get none.
Matt, JimRockFish,
The dependence on oil is easy to break. When it is used up. we will never use any more. Meanwhile there are efforts afoot to reduce dependency -- nobody wants them ; "Not in by backyard" - in the case of Cape Cod, "not in my sight"; can't have nuclear, can't flood land for dams, can't burn coal, can't use natural gas, certianly can't use oil. Guess what - there ain't enough squirrels to cage for power generation!
We are our own worst enemy and nobody in DC has the gonads to make something work. Until we quit worring quite so much about each acre some critter occupies or somebody having a windmill or solar panel within 25 miles of their 1 week a year mountian or beach cottage, just suck it up and send your bucks to the oil companies.
Jim, There are some reports claiming natural crude leaks of sufficient output to exceed all of the manmade "catastrophies". Not that we are helping, but Ma Nature helps take care of a lot of our mistakes. Valdez is a good example since the Dumbstream Media knew Valdez would be a wasteland for centuries, yet today the problem is largely gone. The wildlife has recovered, fish are back and life goes on.
Is it bad? Certianly. Is it the end of life for the Gulf and every grain of sand will be contaminated forever? Not at all. There are tons of work to be done the next few years for us and Ma Nature but it will get done an life will return to normal with a few visible scars to remind us of our mistake. The good of this spill is Big Oil will likely have new and more effective ways to control situations like this before another hole is poked in the Earth
Since the Medias can't control themselves, Chicken Little needs to get a grip on his hype..................but then that would not sell a single newspaper.
budc(Optimist) :- }
Matt, JimRockFish,
The dependence on oil is easy to break.
I understand your point but I don't think any point makes the above statement true. When the worlds oil is gone, civilization as we know it also ends. That won't be easy.
We need to get the enviro wackos out of the way and proceed to drill and use the oil we have while allowing nuclear energy to realize its full potential .With an all out push to get the oil we need we could establish a realistic time line to free ourselves from oil and tax the production for research . The stop drilling scenario is not realistic and not proceeding with research for effective alternatives is dangerous to our security.Only an idiot would suspend safe production of oil from existing platforms or a very sly muslim who wants to deliver our country to his masters.
goose70
06-19-2010, 10:10 PM
BUDC, most of the alternatives that you mention involve electrical generation. They are not (yet) true alternatives to petrol, only alternatives to coal.
For this reason, I think that Matt and Gwag raise a valid point: We have no easy way to rid ourselves of petrol dependency anytime soon. However, petrol dependency does not mean that we have to waste it with the ridiculous consumption rate in which we are now engaged. It is that consumption rate that is the real problem and (I sound like a broken record) we could remedy it tomorrow with little, if any, detriment to our quality of life, and without a need to depend on new technology.
On the transportation side, dozens of safe, roomy, practical, reliable fuel efficient vehicles exist. Some of those are even SUVs and crossovers. In the DC metro area, excellent public transportation options exist for most people. As someone who once commuted by car from Annapolis to DC, I can attest to ho much more enjoyable (and economical) commuter buses are -- or even the Metro. We should not be using plastic bags...that's just wanton waste. Buy a few reusable bags and use those for shopping. And obviously, recycle your plastic packaging. Finally, drive the speed limit and don't treat each red light as a drag race start. Driving this way, my Camry went from averaging 23 mpg to averaging 31 mpg (and more like 34 mpg on highway trips). My wife regulary gets in the 50s on her Prius, and we arrive to our destinations about as quickly as the speeders and aggressive drivers. And we actually enjoy the ride more. These are simple things that we calculate have cut our petrol consumption by about 35% ---- and have increased our quality of life. If the Country saw a petroleum reduction of just half of what we experienced, then we would cut out the equivilent of most of our Middle Eastern imported oil, or all of our offshore drilled oil, and see fuel prices tumble.
If you're not taking most of the above steps, then you have no right to complain about BP, the government or demand more offshore drilling.
Gwag, offshore drilling is unlikely to break our dependency on foreign oil. There likely just isn't enough of the stuff out there that we can readily obtain within the limits of technology. And what we can obtain will not be at today's cheap prices. But, I do share your concern about "sneaky Muslims." I assume that you are refering to certain Arab OPEC members with whom the Bush clan was (and still is) so cozy. Thank God they're no longer in charge, eh?
Silly Goose George W Bush = American born, Barrack Hussien Obama = Muslim see the difference.
Jim can you direct me to a copy of the birth certificate of the sitting president.
FishingRod
06-22-2010, 12:48 PM
BIRTHER FREAKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdar1-2oXFE
goose70
06-22-2010, 02:16 PM
this is the worst man made disaster I've ever seen or heard of.
Google this: "Chernobyl"
Alley Cat
06-23-2010, 10:29 AM
We need to get the enviro wackos out of the way and proceed to drill and use the oil we have while allowing nuclear energy to realize its full potential .With an all out push to get the oil we need we could establish a realistic time line to free ourselves from oil and tax the production for research . The stop drilling scenario is not realistic and not proceeding with research for effective alternatives is dangerous to our security.Only an idiot would suspend safe production of oil from existing platforms or a very sly muslim who wants to deliver our country to his masters.We use 19.5 million barrels of oil every day 70% of which is imported. If all of our reserves proved and unproved were exploited we would only relieve this by about 5% and then only for a limited period.
Are you saying it is a good thing to keep sending almost a billion dollars a day elswhere? I don't think we have a choice on getting off of oil in the interest of our ecomony alone, not to mention national security.
Production from existing wells is part of the present ban. In fact it is only deep water drilling that is affected, 33 wells that are not yet producing out of over 1400. The Gulf produces 30% of the oil produced in the US which is only 31% of the total we use, so do the math 10% or less of the oil we use every day comes from the Gulf and once again the 1400 producing wells are still working.
I agree we should go after nuclear but this takes time. We need also to ramp up wind, solar and natural gas.
Drilling alone would not be much of a help.
Alley Cat
06-24-2010, 04:50 PM
Production from existing wells is part of the present ban. In fact it is only deep water drilling that is affected, 33 wells that are not yet producing out of over 1400. The Gulf produces 30% of the oil produced in the US which is only 31% of the total we use, so do the math 10% or less of the oil we use every day comes from the Gulf and once again the 1400 producing wells are still working. The above paragraph in the previous post should read "Production from existing wells in not part of the present ban. "
Thoroughbred
06-25-2010, 08:18 AM
Were you still in diapers in 1991? Remember Kuwait? (not even 1/10 yet)
1. Kuwait - 1991 - 520 million gallons. Iraqi forces opened the valves of several oil tankers in order to slow the invasion of American troops. The oil slick was four inches thick and covered 4000 square miles of ocean.
Probably no old enough for Mexico...
2. Mexico - 1980 - 100 million gallons. An accident in an oil well caused an explosion which then caused the well to collapse. The well remained open, spilling 30,000 gallons a day into the ocean for a full year.
How about the year before that...
3. Trinidad and Tobago - 1979 - 90 million gallons. During a tropical storm off the coast of Trinidad and Tobago, a Greek oil tanker collided with another ship, and lost nearly its entire cargo.
Or what about the rest of the 10 ten.......wait....maybe our "Chicken Little" media will finally make the top 10 (not "Disasters" but just oil spills).....the sky is falling....the sky is falling......
4. Russia - 1994 - 84 million gallons. A broken pipeline in Russia leaked for eight months before it was noticed and repaired.
5. Persian Gulf - 1983 - 80 million gallons. A tanker collided with a drilling platform which, eventually, collapsed into the sea. The well continued to spill oil into the ocean for seven months before it was repaired.
6. South Africa - 1983 - 79 million gallons. A tanker cought fire and was abandoned before sinking 25 miles off the coast of Saldanha Bay.
7. France - 1978 - 69 million gallons. A tanker's rudder was broken in a severe storm, despite several ships responding to its distress call, the ship ran aground and broke in two. Its entire payload was dumped into the English Channel.
8. Angola - 1991 - more than 51 million gallons. The tanker expolded, exact quantity of spill unknown
9. Italy - 1991 - 45 million gallons The tanker exploded and sank off the coast of Italy and continued leaking its oil into the ocean for 12 years.
10. Odyssey Oil Spill - 1988 - 40 million gallons. 700 nautical miles off the cost of Nova Scotia.
Found this and thought I'd share.
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