08-02-2011, 12:06 PM
Guys I'm planning on doing a overnight trip sometime next week out of OC. Seeing that a bunch of Swords have been caught this year at the canyon I really want to dedicate a line for for the possbility of catching one. I know the gear used by the florida guys for daytime swording can be pretty extensive but have heard I can get away with a 50 class reel backed with braid at night. Can anyone give me some insight on how to rig up something for one of these fish and tips on depth and contour changes to look for? Much appreciated!
08-02-2011, 01:15 PM
The easiest way I have learned/used is to crimp your hook on the leader but leave the other end of the leader open and cut on an angle. Lay the squid so the mouth is right at the bend of the hook. Mark on the leader about where the body cavity comes to a narrow point on the other end and crimp a bead or small float at that point on the leader (at this point all you have is a hook and a crimp/bead about 10 inches up the leader). Then, feed the leader up through the squid body and out the point of the mantle, pull until the bead is all the way up to the end of the body cavity, then put your hook through the mouth. Works like a charm so long as the weight of the squid is being held by the bead and not the hook. No clue on contours etc. as my success rate is..well...as bad as you can get!
08-02-2011, 01:56 PM
I have followed the lead of the longliners... a circle hook through the nose of the squid. It is simple, and I figure if it works for them.... I have only caught one sword, though... so others around here would be much sources. I use to put together the elaborate squid baits, but them with only 2-3 guys on the boat, and live squid mauling the baits, I gave up on the effort in favor of simplicity.
In terms of location, the two previous (successful) canyon overnighters I had, I was drifting right over the edge of the 100 line. Picked up a couple of mako bites a few weeks ago drifting directly across the Balitmore. We had nothing all night until we started drifting up the east wall of the canyon - that is where we got the bites, and much better bait/marks in the area. My guess was that the current was pushing the bait up onto the canyon edge, thus the reason for our bites. Didn't realize what was happening until I checked our drift, but in hindsight, I was convinced...
I usually get out there, find a steep dropoff, then stop the boat to see which direction the drift is, and readjust accordingy.
08-02-2011, 03:23 PM
As for the depth, it will depend on water temp, readings, thermocline and so on. I use squid for bait, or maybe even mackeral. I have also used jigs on occasion connected to the outriggers so that the boat is doing the jigging for you overnight. When the boat rocks, your getting a nice action on that jig. One suggestion would be a glow jig or light down there for attention. A jig with a glow stick tied up on the riggers is a simple way to catch them at night. Think about it, if the boat rocks 3 feet, that rigger just moved it 20feet with no effort from the fisherman.
08-03-2011, 08:02 AM
A simple method that I have used involves a 2-3 oz egg sinker and a large rubber band. Thread the squid from the top of the leader and set the egg sinker at the right location (so the circle hook is just above the head of the squid). Fix the position of the egg sinker using the rubber band (wrap around the line on the hook side and pull through itself and pull tight - trim the excess). Position a light stick about 6-8 feet above the bait with another runnber band.
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