alantani
02-12-2012, 01:26 AM
torium 50 and trinidad 40/50 dog and spring upgrade
we've been upgrading trinidad and torium 16's, 20's and 30's for quite a while. great reels. you all know the mantra. grease on all the screws, grease on all the non-exposed metal surfaces, spool bearings opened, cleaned and lubed with tsi 301, non-spool beaings packed with grease, carbontex drag upgrgades with cal's grease, a drop in upgrade to to the trinidad DC pawl (TGT 1303) and pawl spring (TGT 1304), and a oversized handle grip. we have also been upgrading the trinidad and torium 40's and 50's in the same way. the dog and spring upgrade is just a little different, so i thought i's better go over it.
if you want to do the upgrade the same way we do, then start by googling tsi 301 and then order some directly from the company. then order up a carbontex drag set and some cal's grease from smoothdrag.com. if you don't want the spend the extra money for the tsi 301, just order a vial of reel x at the same time you are ordering up the drags and grease. then call shimano at 877-577-0600 and order up a single pawl and spring set for the trinidad/torium 16/20/30 or a pair of pawls and springs for the trinidad 40/50. get your tools and do a quick review of the rebuild post http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=45.0 and the schematic for the reel http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Conventional/07TOR50_v1_m56577569830641809.pdf
ok, now for the double dog system. here is the bare frame for the torium 50 (key #1105).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_35_51.jpeg
see that small ridge between the post supporting the pawl and the post for the screw?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_20.jpeg
there are two on both sides.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_30.jpeg
now look at what happens when you lay a pawl spring down on top of the post. yup, it won't lay flat. and if you try to put a pawl on top of it, the pawl will bind.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_55.jpeg
ok, out comes the dremel.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_11.jpeg
grab your safety goggles and let's get to work.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_21.jpeg
ok, that was quick and easy. see the cut marks?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_31.jpeg
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_40.jpeg
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_51.jpeg
ok, now for the springs. we are going to have to bend one of them. now, when you get these springs, they will both look like the one on the left. what you have to do with one of the springs is grab the curled tail and open it up until it looks like the one on the right, then cut off the curled tail.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_02.jpeg
see how the curled tail was cut off the spring on the left?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_12.jpeg
here is what the unbent spring looks like when it is in place. this is the same for the trinidad/torium 16/20/30's.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_25.jpeg
here is the spring that is bent open and cut.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_39.jpeg
lay the pawls in next. note that the end of the spring that is bent "up" lays against the "outside" of the pawl.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_42_56.jpeg
install the anti-reverse pawl keepers (key# TGT 544) and screws (key# TGT305).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_43_14.jpeg
install the anti-reverse ratchet (key# TGT448).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_43_31.jpeg
follow the tutorial on this board or on mine to reassemble the rest of the reel.
just a note. these reels will now be noisy as hell, but you will never have to worry about the handle going knuckle buster on you, even if the anti-reverse roller bearing fails. i just don't have enough confidence in those ambassaduer-style dogs. good hunting, gentlemen!
we've been upgrading trinidad and torium 16's, 20's and 30's for quite a while. great reels. you all know the mantra. grease on all the screws, grease on all the non-exposed metal surfaces, spool bearings opened, cleaned and lubed with tsi 301, non-spool beaings packed with grease, carbontex drag upgrgades with cal's grease, a drop in upgrade to to the trinidad DC pawl (TGT 1303) and pawl spring (TGT 1304), and a oversized handle grip. we have also been upgrading the trinidad and torium 40's and 50's in the same way. the dog and spring upgrade is just a little different, so i thought i's better go over it.
if you want to do the upgrade the same way we do, then start by googling tsi 301 and then order some directly from the company. then order up a carbontex drag set and some cal's grease from smoothdrag.com. if you don't want the spend the extra money for the tsi 301, just order a vial of reel x at the same time you are ordering up the drags and grease. then call shimano at 877-577-0600 and order up a single pawl and spring set for the trinidad/torium 16/20/30 or a pair of pawls and springs for the trinidad 40/50. get your tools and do a quick review of the rebuild post http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=45.0 and the schematic for the reel http://fish.shimano.com/media/fishing/SAC/techdocs/en/Conventional/07TOR50_v1_m56577569830641809.pdf
ok, now for the double dog system. here is the bare frame for the torium 50 (key #1105).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_35_51.jpeg
see that small ridge between the post supporting the pawl and the post for the screw?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_20.jpeg
there are two on both sides.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_30.jpeg
now look at what happens when you lay a pawl spring down on top of the post. yup, it won't lay flat. and if you try to put a pawl on top of it, the pawl will bind.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_36_55.jpeg
ok, out comes the dremel.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_11.jpeg
grab your safety goggles and let's get to work.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_21.jpeg
ok, that was quick and easy. see the cut marks?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_31.jpeg
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_40.jpeg
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_37_51.jpeg
ok, now for the springs. we are going to have to bend one of them. now, when you get these springs, they will both look like the one on the left. what you have to do with one of the springs is grab the curled tail and open it up until it looks like the one on the right, then cut off the curled tail.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_02.jpeg
see how the curled tail was cut off the spring on the left?
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_12.jpeg
here is what the unbent spring looks like when it is in place. this is the same for the trinidad/torium 16/20/30's.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_25.jpeg
here is the spring that is bent open and cut.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_38_39.jpeg
lay the pawls in next. note that the end of the spring that is bent "up" lays against the "outside" of the pawl.
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_42_56.jpeg
install the anti-reverse pawl keepers (key# TGT 544) and screws (key# TGT305).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_43_14.jpeg
install the anti-reverse ratchet (key# TGT448).
http://alantani.com/gallery/5/1_11_02_12_10_43_31.jpeg
follow the tutorial on this board or on mine to reassemble the rest of the reel.
just a note. these reels will now be noisy as hell, but you will never have to worry about the handle going knuckle buster on you, even if the anti-reverse roller bearing fails. i just don't have enough confidence in those ambassaduer-style dogs. good hunting, gentlemen!