04-02-2005, 05:49 AM
[grin] In December I bought a boat with long enough legs to reach bluewater and just now secured my first quiver of offshore gear and need suggestions on line for TLD25s. I have been very pleased with trilene big game mono and offshore anglers spectra for bay and nearshore fishing but realize that blue water offers significantly different challenges.
I have heard of using spectra on the TLDs with a mono topshot but do not know the advanteges/disadvantages. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Also would like to know if my 113h senators with 50lb mono will hold up out there.
When I was 18 I worked on a private sf yacht and got a little time in as mate, capt, and the like but that was 22 years ago and I am not confident that I could duplicate the sucesses that we had back then. I would welcome a HO or be willing HO for you to get some experience.
04-02-2005, 08:17 AM
I fished a boat on Thursday and we used 25's spooled with 450yds. of 40#. Was plenty of line.
04-02-2005, 10:16 AM
I use #40 momoi blue diamond on my tld 25's and 15-20ft of double line tied to the swivel using a Uni-Knot. You can tie the double using a Spider Hitch, Bimini Twist or the Aussie Plait. I use the Aussie. I would stay away from the Spider Hitch for offshore trolling. It is a fast and easy knot to tie and it's a strong knot, but it just doesn't have the shock adsorption as the Bimini or the Aussie Plait. That is just my preference.
Or you don't necessarily have to tie a double at all. but with #30-40 class line I feel a lot more comfortable with 15-20ft of double line, plus when you get a few cranks of the double on to the reel you can put a hell of a lot more pressure on the fish and bring him in gaffing range a lot faster.
04-02-2005, 10:36 AM
Sandy, how much 40# does the 25 hold? I know it's 450 yards of 20#.
04-02-2005, 10:37 AM
Thanks for your replies!
Capt Ben - What did you catch??
Smallmarlin - How large of a fish are you comfortable with on your TLDs?
04-02-2005, 11:28 AM
Since the 40# momoi blue diamond has a slight larger diameter than (lets say 40# Ande) you cant get as much line using Momoi. But the advantage that I like using the Momoi is that the break strength is greater the Ande. The Momoi 40# would probably break around 65-75# unlike Ande that would break at around 50-60#.
To answer your question I would get about 380-425 yards on my 25's without using a Top Shot.
I haven't put a line counter on my reels to be 100% sure. It's just a guess.
I'd feel comfortable with any fish in the ocean with my 25's. First and foremost you must have 100% confidence in your crew and 200% confidence in your equipment. I've caught 150# Bluefin with no sweat on the 25's.
04-02-2005, 11:54 AM
I put #30 Mamoi on all of mine. I think it holds 600 yards. We have one with #40, but I prefer the 30. They work a little better for all purpose, drum, cobia, sharks, and for winter striper trolling. I have found that the 40 wont get quite as deep, and with proper drag setting you are only talking about 2.5 lbs of less drag, but with a lot more capacity.
That is only my personal 2cents, you might want to try both to give yourself some options while your out there.
Good luck with it.
04-02-2005, 12:05 PM
You guys are killing me. You might want to use a line counter the next time you spool up. I have a 25 that is spooled with 30# Momoi and it didn't hold 400 yards.
04-02-2005, 12:11 PM
I'll use the line counter!!! I told you it was just a guess....LOL
04-02-2005, 01:43 PM
We caught 7 tuna, 4 of which were on the 25's.