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    Oh what the heck...Might as well spread the love around...

    Don't listen to word one about any sunset clause...

    This is money...

    This is a state with a 1.4 billion dollar projected budget deficit...

    This money will be used as DNR, or the General Assembly sees fit...

    The MSSA couldn't oversee anything and there is no task that doesn't confuse them, Rich Novotny can't figure out whether he is in favor of undersized crabs for commercial harvest or not for cryingoutloud...

    In three years the DNR will come back and say they have created staff positions with this money, although there will be no way to prove that, and that they will have to reduce their staff if this money vaporizes...

    You with me so far?

    Even the pretense of matching funds is gone...You just signed off on a bill promoted by a DNR consultant, to pay an agency that pays him to send out angler surveys so late they are useless, that thinks a put and take oyster program/industry is "Oyster Restoration" when anyplace reasonable would consider it welfare, and after eight years of meetings and restocking efforts thinks the right thing to do to bring yellow perch back is to open more rivers to commercial netting!

    It would take a smart team of miscreants and ner-do-wells months to come up with a legislative scenario remotely stupider than this...

    If dumb was dynamite you wouldn't want to smoke around here...

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    You are right on the mark with all shots fired on this one.

    As for MSSA, we got an email from the MSSA President urging us to send letters/make phone calls/send emails to support the bill. If the matching funds part was killed, he didn't offer any hints. Funny, cause it was my understanding that the MSSA Board said they would not support it unless matching funds were part of it. You're right. Rich is probably confused.

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    I gotta go. I'll check back here later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverdance View Post
    You are right on the mark with all shots fired on this one.

    As for MSSA, we got an email from the MSSA President urging us to send letters/make phone calls/send emails to support the bill. If the matching funds part was killed, he didn't offer any hints. Funny, cause it was my understanding that the MSSA Board said they would not support it unless matching funds were part of it. You're right. Rich is probably confused.
    This kills me...

    I've only screamed this as loud as I can for, well, almost ever...

    1) The "matching" funds were fiction all along...Forget dedicated funds in this state. I won't rehash all that...

    2) That language was a bill killer, it was going to come out of there as soon as ANY committee saw it! ANYBODY could have anticipated THAT! My dog, who occasionally rolls in bad smelling stuff, knew THAT!

    I'm going to go think happy thoughts now...Happy thoughts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds View Post
    You are enjoying yourself altogether too much, you know that don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds View Post
    I'm enjoying agitating you. The legislature is the same as it was 40 years ago when I was involved.

    Guess what?

    You are not going to change it.
    I don't want to change "IT", I know how "IT" works...I want to change "US"...

    I want to accelerate the learning curve and scream less...

    I'd rather work smart, not hard.

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    ....Start within your ranks. I saw a post on the main board, where the DNR was merely suggesting for trophy fisherman to stop fishing once the had they're limits, for obvious reasons. It was sickning to me to see just how many people were more concerned with what was in it for them, the price of they're boats and gear......no way, stop fishing?.........Really sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam2 View Post
    ....Start within your ranks. I saw a post on the main board, where the DNR was merely suggesting for trophy fisherman to stop fishing once the had they're limits, for obvious reasons. It was sickning to me to see just how many people were more concerned with what was in it for them, the price of they're boats and gear......no way, stop fishing?.........Really sad.
    I hear ya, bud...I definately hear you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam2 View Post
    ....Start within your ranks. I saw a post on the main board, where the DNR was merely suggesting for trophy fisherman to stop fishing once the had they're limits, for obvious reasons. It was sickning to me to see just how many people were more concerned with what was in it for them, the price of they're boats and gear......no way, stop fishing?.........Really sad.

    It has to start somewhere. Sometimes the best one can do is lead by example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverdance View Post
    You are right on the mark with all shots fired on this one.

    As for MSSA, we got an email from the MSSA President urging us to send letters/make phone calls/send emails to support the bill. If the matching funds part was killed, he didn't offer any hints. Funny, cause it was my understanding that the MSSA Board said they would not support it unless matching funds were part of it. You're right. Rich is probably confused.
    It was crap like this, plus their membership in the ORP, that caused me to send them a resignation notice tonight. Rich got my money once, but never again. The word "sustainable" has to be in their vision statement, and their actions have to match their words before I'll join them again.
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