Did Bill Windley and CCA get into a fight ?
Stopped in the baitshop on the way home today (Sat-5th) and they were talking about Bill Windley-(MSSA president) and someone from CCA getting into a shoving /slapping match last week-maybe Thursday.
Did anyone else hear this ? I can't imagine someone pushing Bill-he's a small guy and about as quiet as they come plus he's kinda old.I butt heads with Bill sometimes but if someone hurt him-that's way past wrong.
If you heard anything similar or know the real story-let me know. Thanks, Skip
Last edited by 27 sailfish; 05-05-2007 at 04:10 PM.
Reason: spelling error
As I understand it Bill Windley slapped the Executive Director of CCA's Arm after calling him a God Dammed Liar during a heated discussion over MSSA's handling of SB1012 at the Marland Legislative Sportsman's Foundation banquet at Talisman Farm in Grasonville.
I'm open to hearing Bill's side of this story, but I can't imagine he's going to be able to spin his way out of this one. If he laid a hand on someone else while representing me in the presence of reporters and elected officials I expect him to resign.
From the Baltimore Sun:
Flounder at 20 paces
Next time the Maryland Legislative Sportsmen's Foundation has a banquet, they'd better hire Pygmies with tranquilizing blow guns instead of bartenders.
At Thursday's fund-raising outing on the Eastern Shore, the head honcho of one of Maryland's largest fishing organizations slapped his counterpart during an argument over the recently passed law that will raise fishing license fees July 1 to cover some Fisheries Service expenses.
And they say women are emotional.
One group helped write the bill, threatened to drop its support if certain provisions were removed and then didn't follow through on the threat. The other group helped write the bill but ended up opposing it.
Sitting between the slapper and the slappee was the man who started the whole bill thing in the first place. Does it get any better than that?
On the one hand - the one that likes Hunter S. Thompson, booger jokes and Caddyshack - this is funny stuff and I'm sorry there isn't a YouTube video.
But the sober, adult side of me - the one that swears she watches Nova and listens to the Metropolitan Opera - wonders if this is the kind of behavior that is going to lead to productive talks about the future of recreational fishing.
These groups can't even sit at the same table. How are they going to negotiate, by teleconference?
Hunting groups used to have a contentious relationship that allowed anti-hunting interests to divide and conquer. They wised up and got Sunday hunting, a black bear season and more say at the Department of Natural Resources.
If I'm running the Maryland Watermen's Association, this is exactly the kind of childish display that brings tears of joy to my eyes.
Maybe instead of hiring blow gun-packing Pygmies, the foundation should raise money next year by running a Whack-A-Mole game with this past week's combatants as the whacker and the whackee.
Crowbait-Thanks for posting that.I read it this morning also.I heard the same story from someone who was there-they did not see Bill slap the guy but confirmed that Bill was the one who lost his temper.I think I'll go to the next Comm. meeting-June 5th-should be good.I'll make sure to wear old shoes-I hate getting BS on good shoes. Skip
We're still waiting for the "truth" on this one...
My compliments to 27 Sailfish and Crow Bait for talking this on the MSSA board first. Note that it was not MSSA members who exposed it on the main board after the Sun article came out.
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:19:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Your Actions at the Maryland Legislative Sportsman's Foundation Banquet
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Dear President Windley,
Please clarify my understanding of your actions during a confrontation at the Maryland Legislative Sportsman's Foundation banquet at Talisman Farm in Grasonville , MD on May 3, 2007.
Based on the Baltimore Sun article written by Candus Thomson, published on May 6, 2007, and details from witnesses, I understand you were involved in a physical encounter with the Executive Director of CCA MD, Robert Glenn.
My understanding is that you were in the midst of a heated discussion with Mr. Glenn. At some point, you raised your hand above your head and slammed it down on the table; striking Mr. Glenn’s arm in the process, calling him a “God Dammed Liar” and wagging your finger in his face.
Is this true? If I have my facts wrong, please inform me.
If my facts are correct; did you realize that this outburst and assault took place in the presence of DNR officials, reporters, and elected leaders? Did you realize you were representing your membership with this behavior? Do you realize that you could have been charged with assault? Do you realize that Mr. Glenn saved you, and the recreational fishing community, further embarrassment by not retaliating?
If any of my facts are correct, I expect you to resign your post as MSSA President. I also expect you to resign your post on the Sport Fish Advisory Commission, and any other fishery related committees you serve on behalf of MSSA and RFA.
If you cannot maintain a civil and professional demeanor at a public event, you are no longer qualified to represent ME, other dues paying MSSA members, and the recreational fishing community as a whole.
Southern Maryland Chapter
I could not agree more with you on that quote,and my compliments to yourself as well as Crowbait and Sailfish27 as well.Any problems we have in our org. whether good bad or indifferent need to be handled by us on this type of board.This has been my point all along to keep our problems to ourselves to resolve
Originally Posted by Riverdance
Crowbait dang you're fast now my post is out of order you happy now!
Hey... you can't fault me. I see a problem and suggest a solution. :)