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    did he do it? would like to hear what some of you think. i have no idea what to believe.

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    Guilty as sin. His own best friend rolled on him. He was already starting his public service messages at the hearing (just say No to drugs kids). The one senator said it best we have 2 guys here telling their side of the story but who to believe. Pettite and Pettite wife both said he is gulity (neither have anything to gain if he is gulity) Chuck Knobalch also stated the same. If it is just 1 on 1 then you use charachter to make the decision here you have testimony. Truthfully they should allow steroid use I want to see HR going 700 gt 110 mph fast balls , 380 lb lineman but, when they drop over or end up on the public health medicaid (becuase they went broke) then too bad for them.

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    one thing is for sure pettite wasn't quite the friend that roger had thought. "best friends" don't nark on each other he is a #$@%%&^ friend.

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    I don't understand the congressional involvement in these hearings. A number of medical experts have said hgh and other performance enhancing drugs have very little effect on the field. I know if I could obtain hgh, I might consider using it -- but, I'd have to have a better understanding of the benefits/risks -- before I inject anything into my body. I believe anabolic steriods are a different animal and should be banned.

    This is baseball's problem, the player's fingered have tarnished their image and chances for induction into the HOF. One simple rule, use any performance enhancing drugs without a medical necessity and you get caught -- you're out of baseball for life, team/owners are subject to expensive fines -- $500,000.00 per infraction.

    Congress need to spend it's efforts on the war, economy, healthcare and not this crap. If anyone needs performance enhancing drugs its congress and it if kills them within 5 years of taking it, all the better.

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    Sadly, I think he is guilty as shit. Pettite's testimony alone is enough to convince me of that. Having said that, Andy Pettite is not the person I thought he was. I'm a diehard Yankees's fan and have been for 30 yrs. For him to drop the dime on his so called best friend is unfathomable. Yes he was under oath, but he could have simply plead the fifth.
    He will never be trusted by another teamate and will be looked upon as rat. Who in their right mind would ever speak to him in confidence again.I was always told if you don't have anything good to say about someone then don't say anything at all. As far as Clemens goes, he has dug his own hole. Instead of simply admitting to what he did, he chose to go the route of Michael Vick. Both could have avoided the costly and devastating
    circumstances they now find themselves in.

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    I would love to see him proven innocent. I have admired him for years and it will be a shame to see him end up like Pete Rose. As far as Pettite ;he did what he had to do! Telling the TRUTH is always the way to go friend or not. The one thing that I hope comes from this is baseball gets back to what it should be; NATURAL athletes playing the game with whatever god has given them in talent and size. Maybe the be room in the game for someone the size of Ozzie Smith again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twobyfour View Post
    Sadly, I think he is guilty as shit. Pettite's testimony alone is enough to convince me of that. Having said that, Andy Pettite is not the person I thought he was. I'm a diehard Yankees's fan and have been for 30 yrs. For him to drop the dime on his so called best friend is unfathomable. Yes he was under oath, but he could have simply plead the fifth.
    Not true. Fifth Amendment Rights protect against "self-incrimination". They don't apply to testimony concerning others. In any case, why does a decision to tell the truth, eventhough it reflected poorly on himself, make Pettite less of a person? Is it okay to be a "Liar" if you're trying to protect a friend. I, and apparently Andy, think not.

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