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    Default New windows and siding?

    We are planing on putting up new siding and windows. Hardi plank or similar siding and new construction windows. My thought is that if the siding is out we might as well do it right. The house was converted from a barn to a house in the 60's so eveything will be an improvement. Is this something that we could do ourselves? We have a great time building barns and decks, hardwood floors and tile but I have never done windows and siding. If I were to pay someone what are some rough quotes for 11 standard windows, 2 sliding doors? The house is 2 story with a foot print of 48'X48' or so. If anyone is local we are in St. Mary's county.

    Steve

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    With no siding. Not including exterior or interior trim.

    Labor only to install 11 windows and 2 sliders should not be more then $2500.00.

    Now the warnings... Most windows and doors are installed incorrectly. Andersen windows estimates 75% of their product is not installed per instructions. What ever product you choose make sure you know the proper installation and bone up on water management.

    EEBA has a water management guide by Joseph W Lstiburek that will put you light years ahead in knowledge then the average contractor in the proper ways to install windows.

    I don't check this board very often if you have questions or I can help bmail me.

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    replaced 28 windows 9 of them floor to ceiling 6 foot windows 2 standard doors 1 sliding glass door siding and all trim work (outside trim amd new gutters ) 23,000 house is a two story 4400 sq ft . very plaesed with the work also cut electric by 27-31% per month since install in october also very quite now commonwealth energy solutions did the work.

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    I replaced all my windows & doors w/ andersons along w/ replacement of old aluminum siding w/ new vinyl. I also installed housewrap (tyvek) before putting on the new siding.....amazing difference.

    .......installing the windows was not "rocket science." ....read the installation guidebook and follow it.

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    If you want to replace your inside trim and sill/outside trim/sill go new construction windows.
    You will probably wind up painting some wall on the interior as well . If interior trim /sill is in good condition you may want to go w/ the Anderson 400 series replacment window. It saves the interior exterior trim replacment and saves any painting on existing walls .You can have the exterior exisitng trim wrapped in pvc aluminum. We use a lot of the hardip[lank product and I like it.

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    If you use that Hardi plank I think down the road you will have to paint it
    I am thinking my choice would be Crane board siding

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    WHoa whoa on the repainting of Hardiplank.
    If you apply 2 coats Benjamin Moore Moorglo,
    applied to a clean surface, you will get 20 + years.
    Low peeling. You will get peeling if the painter
    did not wipe down the surface. Otherwise,
    low peeling. Mostly around drain pipes, etc.
    Choose Red, you will get fading.
    All colors fade over time.
    Mark

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    Hardi Plank for sure! Do it right, prime ALL cuts and if you want to do a little extra put a piece of tar paper under each joint. I have redone about four houses in the last 6 years that were all 100 plus years old and we use Hardi on all of them and they look great. Better than the original cedar or pine used way back when. Also the local review boards and old town assoc. like the older sidng look.

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    If you want maintenance free DONT USE HARDI-PLANK. DEFINITELY dont use Crane Board. Their insulation is GLUED to the back of a .46mil thick vinyl panel. First off, oil-canning of siding doesnt stop until a siding is at least . 48 mils thick and that was done by the ASTM. Secondly, when the adhesive separates from the panel. your insulation is now loose. As for Hardi-Plank, it was created for steel structures, originally. I have replaced several home's hardi-plank with good quality pvc siding .50 mils thick.

    If you are REPLACING windows then use REPLACEMENT windows, NOT new construction. The Anderson 400 series has one of the HIGHEST U-Values of any window out there according to the NFRC. That means they are a terrible insulator. Look for a window with a U-Value of at least .30 or lower. The U-Value is listed on the NFRC sticker that HAS to come on the window when you buy it.

    The best advice I could give you would be to spare yourself the guessing game, frustration, wasted money, etc, and hire a well-established company that specializes in this type of work. One that can provide strong warranties on labor and material. Also one who uses high quality products. In the end, it's always worth it to spend a little more for better quality and professional know-how.

    I will admit that I do work for the largest home improvement company in the state of VA, BUT I am not going to put their name out here because I don't want anyone to think I am doing this to advertise, just simply to help and I hope it has.

    Take Care

    FA

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    I am a PM for a GC in VA but have completed 2 whole house remodels in ST Marys County. Are you still currently looking for a contractor???
    My office email is as follows jmorrison@iwonllc.com. let me know if you are still in need.
    thanks

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