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    Default how to catch a shark on the bay?

    Is it possible to hook one in the bay?
    I remeber couple year ago reading in paper some people might seen some shark around solomon 2-5 years ago.?
    WHat spieces of shark come into the bay?
    Bull shark can becuase thy can handle fresh water?
    Any others?
    And how big do they get in the bay?

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    A lot depends on where in the Bay.....lower Bay bull and sand sharks are not uncommon, and small ones are frequently caught as bycatch while targeting other species.
    In the mid to upper Bay you will occasionally hear of a shark sighting, mainly small to medium bull sharks, and every few years someone will land one and set off a media frenzy.....typically you'll hear of them in mid to late summer when the waters warm.
    As for targeting shark in the mid to upper Bay.....forget it.....not worth the effort, not enough population density to make it worthwile to even try.
    But if ya really wanna.....a couple thick bloody steaks on a large hook should do it.....you'd be better off just grilling and enjoying the steak.
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    In the early 1970s while fishing from Fort Smallwood I saw a small, maybe 15-18 inch, dried up
    shark on the sand. Presume it was caught there.

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    Take a whole alewife on a giant meat hook and dangle it around the Bay Bridge Pilings everynight in the summer and you might get one if its a dry summer and the water gets salty...

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    There are sharks in the bay and mountain lions on land but seeing or catching either one is very remote.If you target sharks you will just end up feeding the bluefish...........Gary
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    if you make it out to cape henry youll find sharks all day long, you cna even happen into some really big sand tigers, the one that look liek theyre smiling wiht all the teeth. most of the time inside the bay youll find small dogfish or sandbar sharks while fishing for spot, croaker and flounder. most of them will be under 2ft but still fun to fight on the light tackle you use for croaker. But like i said if you really really want to get some sharks you need to make it out ocean side. You can fish sandbridge, damn neck, or cape henry. Fish the wrecks and youll find some good fish. Last year we got a pair of tiger sharks by the cape, and some bigger hammerheads as well. Make your chum from menhaden, bluefish, and tuna. Bait wise, you cna use live bluefish, live spot, croaker and mullet,and anything thats dead. If youve got a kite run it, youll get some vicious strikes on ti from the hammers and blacktips

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    A surprise visitor to the waters off NAS Patuxent River one evening two weeks ago gave several spectators quite a show at Goose Creek. According to Clint Wright, the assistant leading petty officer for the Naval Medical Clinic ambulance division, a 6-ft. shark rolled and thrashed in the waters close to shore, leaving passers-by spellbound for several minutes.

    "I saw this shark swimming on top of the waves before the storm [June 24]," Wright said. "It looked like he was going after the crab pots. I've spent many hours over the years fishing there and I've never seen one before. But I know what I saw, and I saw a shark."

    Shortly after, reports of shark sightings were coming in from Hog Point and even from inside the West Basin Marina. Word quickly spread, and soon the marina was an evening hot spot for families hoping to catch of glimpse of the rare -- or maybe not so rare -- guest to the Patuxent.

    Despite all the hub-bub about the toothy critters in the station's waters, summer bathers and boaters have little to fear in the way of shark attacks.

    "There have never been any recorded attacks in the Chesapeake Bay or any of Maryland's waters," said Harley Spier, a fisheries biologist for the Maryland Department of Natural Resources. "Sharks in the Bay are rare and occasional compared to rays and other fish."

    Although relatively rare, several species of shark do call the Bay home, such as the sandbar shark and bull shark. One is basically harmless, the other is potentially dangerous, and nobody knows for sure which one was thrashing in the surf off Goose Creek.

    The sandbar shark (Carcharhinus plumbeus) is one of the most common and wide-ranging coastal sharks in the world. Sandbar sharks have stocky, heavy-set bodies and rounded snouts. Females have been reported up to 7 or 8 feet in length, while fully grown males run a bit smaller at about 6 ft. The sandbar's body color varies from a blue to brownish gray with a white or pale underside. They are most active at night, at dawn, and at dusk. They are commonly found over muddy or sandy bottoms in shallow coastal waters such as bays, estuaries, harbors, or the mouths of rivers. Juveniles are common to abundant in the lower Chesapeake Bay, which is probably one of the most important nursery grounds on the East Coast for this species.

    Although the sandbar shark is common to the lower Bay, Speir believes that what Wright saw was the sandbar's dangerous cousin, the bull shark (Carcharhinus leucas). Sandbar and bull sharks look very much alike.

    "I think the sandbar shark is less likely [in the case of Wright's sighting] then a bull shark," Spier said.

    The bull shark is heavy-bodied with a short nose. It has broad, serrated triangular upper teeth and very powerful jaws. It has a broad diet and will eat almost anything. According to some studies, it does seem to have a preference for eating baby sandbar sharks.

    Unlike just about all other species of sharks, bull sharks can live and thrive in waters with varying degrees of salinity, and even in fresh water. There have even been accounts of the bull shark being caught as far up the Mississippi River as Illinois, 1,750 miles from the Gulf, and 2,400 miles up the Amazon River. It prefers rivers and inlets with shallow water and is not often reported far out at sea.

    The maximum reported length of the bull shark is 11.5 feet, and it weighed over 500 pounds. On Aug. 26, 1987, The Baltimore Sun reported that a man had caught a 420-pound, 8 1/2-foot bull shark while fishing

    around the Chesapeake Bay Bridge. Similar catches have been reported as far north as Aberdeen, up near the mouth of the Susquehanna River.

    The bull shark is a particularly aggressive species, as the International Shark Attack File has recorded 64 unprovoked attacks on humans, with 20 fatalities.

    Bony fishes and small sharks make up the vast majority of the bull shark's diet. They also regularly consume stingrays and juvenile sharks, including small individuals of their own species in their inshore nursery habitats.

    One theory of the shark's presence in local waters is due to the increase of rays and skates, such as the well-known Chesapeake inhabitant called the cow-nose ray, in the Bay and surrounding rivers this summer. Observations and sightings are complicated by the fact that cow-nose rays often swim with one or both of their "wing tips" out of the water [see photos], so that they look like shark fins. Cow-nose rays are commonly seen in West Basin, especially near the rip-rap seawall along Ferry Landing Road.

    Be that as it may, Spier claims that the correlation between the sharks and the rays is coincidental.

    "The bulls [sharks] are feeding on fish in general," he said. "They'll eat anything that doesn't eat them first."

    Jim Swift, a natural resources specialist here on station echoes some of the statements made by Spier.

    "I'd say there might be some that are chasing the rays, but I think they're more likely to prey on fish and crabs," he said. "They are opportunistic and they will eat anything they can get a hold of, but will they actively seek out rays? Probably not."

    And unless the Goose Creek thrasher is caught, there is very little chance of positively identifying exactly what type of shark it was.

    "I don't think I'd be able to just see this shark and identify it while it's still in the water," Swift said, "and I don't think Spier would be comfortable doing so, either. He likes to take measurements, take a tooth from the shark and take photos. From a distance, it's really tough to gauge what it is."

    Despite the sightings and the subsequent fear whenever the word "shark" is mentioned, Spier warns that beachgoers shouldn't be too concerned about getting in the water this summer.

    "The bull sharks are known to attack people. So if you happen to see a fin, don't go swimming," he said. "But I don't think there is an immediate threat there. People should just continue what they're doing."

    Swift agrees, noting that there is no reason for people to be concerned about shark attacks. The odds are that a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than be attacked by a shark.

    "For the guy that's wading in the water with the trotline of chicken necks out there, trying to get some extra blue crabs, I don't think he's in any more danger then someone who's driving to work in the morning," Swift said. "Your chances are very slim of encountering a shark, and even less of them biting you or [you] trying to fend one off."

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    You are better off targeting Banned Rudder fish :)

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    You'd have have about the same odds black bear hunting in North Beach. Yeah, they saw one there, but not enough around to support a successful hunt.


    The Maryland Department of Natural Resources has been monitoring the movements of a yearling black bear that has wandered into southern Anne Arundel County as it seeks out a suitable habitat of its own. The bear likely traveled into the area from western Maryland or Virginia on its own.

    http://wjz.com/local/black.bear.anne.2.789123.html

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    The inshore sharks that visit our area of the bay are Bull sharks. They can go into fresh water - one of the few sharks to do that.

    Their numbers are very low - due to being over fished. One of their primary foods is Cownose Rays. When the Bull shark population declined - the ray population exploded. They also eat fish - Blues and Rock are favorites. Back in the 1980's - guys fishing the bay bridge would sometimes reel in just the head of a 30 inch Rock.
    Bulls often hang near pilings. The pound netters used to see holes torn in their nets - now the nets remain untouched.

    There might be 1-2 Bulls in the bay but the odds of you hooking one are not good. I scuba dive in the bay and keep tabs of any shark reports. Bulls are an aggresive fish - meeting one in very low visibility is not good.

    If you really wanted to try - you chum and use live 3-4 lb Blues or a cut Ray for bait in late August. That seems to be when most have been seen or hooked.
    What could be more mundane than dying of old age or of natural causes when there is death by misadventure to be pursued ? Skip

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