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    The Vice President thing is pretty shocking. I can't understand how he could have been so careless as to fire in the direction of a hunter, period.

    But.... the one that really has me shaking my head is the one where the 7 year old boy was killed in VA. The paper said the guy was loading his gun at the back of his SUV. Why would you load before ready in the blind? My mind will not allow me to comprehend such a story. No doubt both of these deals were accidents, and accidents do happen, but man, it boils down to a lack of respect for the power of guns.[sad]

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    VP commited the cardinal sin of quail hunting. You never shoot at bird that goes behind you, never.

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    im not defending what the vp did, but after listening to the news, other people einvolved said no one knew the guy was there. he fell behind and was playin catchup.


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    That's why you never shoot at quail that cruise behind you. you maintain a line, and shoot in front of you at all times.

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    Rule #1, when hunting in a party, know where your hunters are.

    As for the Va incident, Marylands' rule is that it is illegal to have a weapon loaded at a vehicle. Let's see, what else, safety not on, pointing the gun in a unsafe direction, the list goes on and on. Stupid careless mistake that he will have to live with forever.

    My grandfather once told that "Accidents don't just happen, they are caused."

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    Accidents happen. Hindsight is 20-20, and even more so if you have never hunted wild upland birds before.

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    Yea, I'm a large supporter of DC, I agree with his politics and all that, but this bothers me. People want to say it was an accident, and that it could happen to anyone, well, I don't really buy that. I'm not saying he should tank over it, but if he is the guy I think he is, he is shattered.

    The guy in Virginia might need to do time, that one is off the scale.

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    Oh lord...the guy Cheney shot just had a heart attack. Hope he pulls through, last report says he has shot in his heart...[angel]

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    First ........ what idiot would shoot at anything behind him ...... to get a shot at it you would have to point the gun at or over the heads of your fellow hunters ........ this is NOT in your shooting lane.

    Second it is YOUR responsibility to know where all of the other hunters are ....... you have the gun and you are responsible for your own actions therefore it is your responsibility to know where everyone is at all times.

    Third ......... now we know why the information was not made public for 24 hours. To me there are some things that REALLY do not make sense. How do you get quail shot in the heart at 30 yds. The quail shot I've used was 8 or 9 shot and at 30 yards there is not much left unless you are using a heavy load even then not much power. How does this shot get into the heart ..... through the hunting vest/jacket, shirt, tee shirt, rib cage and into the heart unless it was at close range and aimed at the chest. I've never heard of shot traveling through the veins/arteries to the heart. Have you?

    THings just don't add up ......... the only ones at the ranch are secret service and Republican inner circle and info is not released for 24 hours or more .......... anything could have transpired in that time especially with someone that well connected and ............ well I'll leave it there.

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    Moronehead,

    I hope I am misunderstanding the voice behind your statement. If not,

    Hindsight may be 20-20 but there is still no excuse to ever point a gun in a direction where you cannot positively identify the backstop out to a reasonable distance, let alone pull the trigger. The fact of upland bird hunting or not!!!!

    I have hunted upland birds and have been showered with pellets from other hunters, but to not know where a hunter is in your own party within 30-40 yards and to pull the trigger is totally unexcusable and sets a bad example for responsibility. The best thing he could do, if he hasn't already done it, is to come out and say "I was wrong and excercised poor judgement".

    That's comparable to shooting someone with a bow (30-40 yards) and saying I thought it was a deer because it was early in the morning or late in the evening and the person looked like one.

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