Kirk yes I do . When I was with Cortland I made a new type of Qd line and sent it to them. They liked it and started development of it. It came out two years later as the 555. So I know a lot about that line. What they did though, that I didnít like about it and still donít. Is the clear running line. I still have a lot of the first ones they sent me. The clear running line that was used. Needs to be stretched a lot , during the day in cold weather. I donít like that. I wanted them the make it with the standard 333 or 444 intermediate running line. That would have made the line a lot more user friendly. Iíve been told , since Iím no longer with Cortland. That the newer matl. That is being used in the clear running line. Is a lot more user friendly. But I havenít used the later lines. Since I still have a number of the first ones. But I will say, that when asked. I prefer the Rio now. Their a very user friendly line. As for getting what you pay for. Most lines to day are costly. And Cortland has and always will be one of the top line companies. They also make lines for a number of other companies , that are not line manufacturers but sell lines under their name. Rio is a company where a number of their top people, were former Courland scientists. So even though we didnít part company with Cortland on the best of terns. I still respect their product and their people as well as Rio.
I didn't know you were with Cortland at one point. I have one of the 555 QD lines but have not used it yet since I still have a few 444 QD lines left. Hope my 555 QD is one of the newer generation ones based on your comments. All of the integrated head type lines will get down but what differentiates them in my opinion is their tendancy to tangle. Some are great but others are horrible. Haven't found a good replacement for the 444 QD but will try the Rio line based on your comments and the comments of others. I hate to drop $75 on a line and find out it tangles or has so much memory that it is useless. This input have been very helpful...thanks.
Kavin was the one who told me about the rio striper line. I tried one and like it alot. Now it's my favrite.
kirk I hope your 555 is a later genration line as well. as for the Rio, I find I still have to strach them on cold days. But only once before fishing it. also I haven't found a line yet that doesn't need to be strached. After being on a reel for a long time. They all don't seem tto like the tight coil of a fly reel. When I do store a line off the reel. I coil it in 12 inch dia coils. I find this the best on the line.
Hey Kirk What I mean being with Cortland. Was, We were part of a program called the Cortland roving pro program. It started over 50 years ago. My two partners were in the program from its inception. I was in it for over 40 years. It ended a few years ago. When the only people in the program was the three of us. Their were over 50 people in it in the beginning. We had the Mid Atlantic area. We taught fly fishing for clubs, stores and any organization that was into fly fishing. Cortland sponsored it. We also did field testing of some new products. The new CEO ended the program. It wasnít done in a very professional way. But it was fun while it lasted. It was just a part time thing for us. But we met and taught may people over the years. And made a lot of friends along the way. The best part for me was. Having a person come up to me, and tell me. I taught them as a young person how to fly fish and they now have taught their children and it was the best thing they ever learned how to do. Its brought a life time of fun to them. Thatís why I did it and still miss it. But life goes on and I find fun in fly fishing in many other ways. This board is one. Making jokes around my fishing in between fishing days.
Hey LC - I'm also a big fan of Rio striper also. Durable and easy to handle in all weather. I use the 350 on my 9wt. Keep in mind that a 400 doesn't sink any faster than a 350. You're mostly interested in how the weight loads your rod.
When anchored in a current, I used Rio Deep 7 on my 8 wt. Very thin and gets down fast (but tangly in some weather...)