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  1. #21
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    I would just like to point out that Rivers are Naturally Dynamic systems. Humans are used to things that stay the same in their lifetime - and that's just not the way natural systems work.

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    Jim, Its no point arguing exact amount of material. Anyone can visit the area now. They can see the miniscule flow and size of the creek vs the vast amount of sand behind Bloede dam to form their own oppinion. If I dump 2 wheelbarrels of sand into a creek then I get arrested. Go figure.
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  3. #23
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    Man lots of information to get through here. Not sure how I feel about this after reading here. The river seems much healthier from Union Dam down to EC after the removal there. Tough to figure it all out when you don't work the science of it on a daily basis. All I know is that I'd love to see this river improve. It could be such a great little river and must have been in it's day.

    Norman
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    The spawning fish migrate upriver during the sring. They stage and wait until water levels are high enough. I have witnessed this as well.

    Also that 895 overpass is a honey hole! That I cant get to anymore now that I have the bigger boat..
    "You're gonna need a bigger boat"-Police Chief Brody..

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE FISHMAN View Post
    Jim, Its no point arguing exact amount of material. Anyone can visit the area now. They can see the miniscule flow and size of the creek vs the vast amount of sand behind Bloede dam to form their own oppinion. If I dump 2 wheelbarrels of sand into a creek then I get arrested. Go figure.
    FISHMAN, you'd get fined for dumping wheelbarrels of sand into the creek. The difference here is the sediment is already IN the creek. I'm at the open house now and will be here till 8:00pm then again from 9:00 to 4:00 tomorrow. Come on up and lets chat.

    JIM

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    FWIW: The head waters of the Severn River - just above Indian Landing filled in last fall after those huge storms in September.

    Areas that were 2-4 feet deep are now exposed sand flats at low tide. This is a huge area - roughly 600 feet wide by about 1,500 feet long.

    There are no dams up stream - just lots of houses both old and new.
    What could be more mundane than dying of old age or of natural causes when there is death by misadventure to be pursued ? Skip

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    Fished about a week ago the area between the bridge of Ilchester road up to where Frederick road meets river road. I do admit I was a firm believer that the dam removal would ruin the ecosystem however I had a nice day with many smallies two of which were 15'' and 17''. The biggest I ever caught at this stretch. I also saw a 3+ foot Eel, something i haven't seen in years.
    As for Belle Grove areA, it is full of sediment and what I used to motor through on my jon boat now cannot be passed with a kayak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkalski View Post
    Fished about a week ago the area between the bridge of Ilchester road up to where Frederick road meets river road. I do admit I was a firm believer that the dam removal would ruin the ecosystem however I had a nice day with many smallies two of which were 15'' and 17''. The biggest I ever caught at this stretch. I also saw a 3+ foot Eel, something i haven't seen in years.
    As for Belle Grove areA, it is full of sediment and what I used to motor through on my jon boat now cannot be passed with a kayak.
    Good news to hear about the smallies. Some nice holes below the mill. The best cover and rocky bottom is above the Simkins dam which I guess that why the fish probably have gravated there. Below is solid sand all the way to the mouth and will only fill in more with storms and when the material behind Bloede is let loose. The dam above Fred. rd. (UNION) did not have much sand behind it.

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