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    Quote Originally Posted by critter View Post
    Yup, I guess they should just not dredge altogether and let the whole inlet silt in so its just a preserve for the tree huggers.
    Not the point being made, get educated on the issue.

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    Ouch! Now that hurt my one feeling. I'm pretty up to date on the not in my backyard fiasco.
    Last edited by critter; 08-03-2012 at 05:03 PM. Reason: Not a very educated response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by critter View Post
    Ouch! Now that hurt my one feeling. I'm pretty up to date on the not in my backyard fiasco.
    sounds about right ..... I'm so thankful that I don't live over there

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    Quote Originally Posted by critter View Post
    Ouch! Now that hurt my one feeling. I'm pretty up to date on the not in my backyard fiasco.
    Good...maybe you'll crawl back into the critter hole you came out of...unless you have some facts to share why public works' DMTS@ Crab Creek is a good idea with no safety issues or impacts to the environment or private property owners. Good thing this barge was loaded with sand from the channel and not sludge from river creeks.

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    Actually, i heard the Backhoe/dredge operator stuffed Andy Fox in the Dredge Spoil Box and someone named Critter has a video of the operator pushing the Spoil Box off the side of the Barge. I can't wait to get the full details from the video.
    I Think this Thread may turn out to outdo the Justin Stevens Thread if this Critter guy doesn't release the Video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccx2 View Post
    Actually, i heard the Backhoe/dredge operator stuffed Andy Fox in the Dredge Spoil Box and someone named Critter has a video of the operator pushing the Spoil Box off the side of the Barge. I can't wait to get the full details from the video.
    I Think this Thread may turn out to outdo the Justin Stevens Thread if this Critter guy doesn't release the Video.
    I hear he is a "wily" critter

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    ::stuffed Andy Fox in the Dredge Spoil Box

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwills98 View Post
    Good...maybe you'll crawl back into the critter hole you came out of...unless you have some facts to share why public works' DMTS@ Crab Creek is a good idea with no safety issues or impacts to the environment or private property owners. Good thing this barge was loaded with sand from the channel and not sludge from river creeks.
    I'm not an Environmental engineer,"Although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night". There will always be a safety issue, I'm taking one as I get in my vehicle to go to work in ten minutes, And any type of dredging will have an impact on the environment. Unless you live in a tent and ride a bicycle, I'm sure your everyday living has an impact as well.
    Oh! The owner of the Holiday inn is pretty upset you called his place a hole. I'll crawl back into it tonight.

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    critter, agree with you....I never understood waterfront owners (who pay a ton of taxes) protesting dredging to their properties....
    There are plenty of waterfront properties that would pay to jet/dredge to allow for low tide navigation...

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    Default The real issue

    The maintenance dredging of the main channel for navigational purposes of Long Creek is not the issue at Maple St. The community and waterfront homeowners understand this necessity and the risks, disruption, and benefits that comes with it. I don't know of anyone with objections to this dredging.

    The issue is the City's attempt to create a permanent mechanical dredge spoils transfer facility in the middle of a residential area, on a narrow recreational waterway -- with residential zoning - in a protected overlay district - The Shore Drive Corridor Overlay District - a part of the City's Comprehensive Plan.

    After the community was already built, in the past, the Army Corps of Engineers has used the Maple St. site for hydraulic transfer of spoils and only ONCE for a few days, during the past permit cycles, was the Maple St. site ever used for the transfer of spoils mechanically for some shoaling per VMRC's records.

    There are plenty of areas and ways - away from residential neighborhoods - that could be used for the transfer or disposal of the spoils for the waterfront owners - as well as the use of their own channels for temporary transfer access. But for the larger jobs - the most environmentally friendly, safe, long term, cost efficient way for private owners and all taxpayers is being ignored.

    It's unfortunate that the accident happened, but it brings to light the risks of introducing such a permanent activity in the channel. That day, like a typical summer day, the narrow channel was filled with kids fishing from the docks, kayaks, boats, and paddle boarders - before, during and after the accident.

    Your help in supporting those trying to press the City for some real solutions to help the waterfront owners with their dredging needs - as well as the main channels throughout the city is appreciated.

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