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    I was reading the Virginia Fishing Forum on Tidal Fish and spotted a thread with an article from Stripers Forever talking about the the striped bass crash and why all this illegal netting going on in North Carolina and in Maryland as well as in other places should be a grave concern for all of us.

    NOAA released 2010 striped bass catch data recently. Below is what the chart looks like. When you see this chart you realize where we just might be headed, about where we headed in the late eighties.



    I pulled together the Maryland catch just out of curiosity. Same Story.



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    Last edited by Brandon; 02-20-2011 at 08:54 AM.

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    Good job to the writer of the article and Brandon for pulling together some good factual data that proves that the numbers being caught are way down. We all know that it's not for lack of trying.

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    Scary data. Is there any sort of standardization for each year's data? Specifically, do we know if the number of commercial boats were the same for each of the years? Same for recs? Probably impossible to obtain those data, but would make the charts less debateable. Either way, if those charts do indicate a decline in the population, what a scary drop beginning in 2007! What in the world happened then?

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    That would have been good to present at the TFAC meeting the other night. I believe O'Connel said that the fishery was in good shape. It looks like a CFIT to me! ( controlled flight into terrain. ) I would think that a fishery manager would have access to this material. Better quit the denial and pull back on the stick............Gary

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    I'm sure most of us are not surprised by the data. NETS NEED to stop in Maryland period including on the coast. Sadly reductions in the rec/and Charter industry need to follow suit. We need to focus on hatchery raised fish continuously to supplement the wild stock along w/making better incentive for raising in pens for the food industry. We are simply taking more than nature can sutain so if we don't add to it well we will be back in a moritorium. We really need fisheries on a NATIONAL level to dictate to the states because most of our States are not regulating as the need shows. And then there is the POACHING problem in our STATE and coastwide.Really sad we are back where we started in 86.

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    I know Wild Bill has posted some data a while ago that someone else did, but I think the 2010 numbers just came out so I put them together to see what Maryland's catch looked like. It's not that surprising if you think about it, we have Myco in striped bass in the Chesapeake which is NOT being accounted for in the population models. Scientific data suggests that as many as 75% of the striped bass have it. I did do some research lately talking with some scientists who are working on myco and it appears some of the stripers if they make it to the ocean can overcome it, but still estimated that about 50% can result in mortality.

    Add in water pollution to the equation and that fact that we are harvesting at the current past levels and that will whack the population pretty good.

    Then add in all the poaching going on in Maryland, the trawlers in North Carolina, and the poaching that goes on outside 3 miles by both commercial and recs and its adds up pretty quickly.


    Bottom line is we need to get rid of nets, crack down on all poaching by both commercial and recs and start thinking about the possibility that we might have to cut back both commercial and recreational allocations.

    My main fear is that we have to go into another moratorium which will be bad for everyone and the economy which relies on striped bass.

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    For the past 10 years I’ve been taking a 3 week fishing vacation during early August to the Kennebec region of Maine, fish for stripers until I drop. My successes over these years in Maine exactly parallels the graph of Atlantic Coast Recreation Catch, except the precipitous drop from 2006 to 2010 was waaay more pronounced in Maine. I went from catching a couple 100 in 2006 to catching only 22/25 during 2009/2010… pretty much same effort over the years too. All the other shore and boat fishermen I talk to while up in ME during 2010 reported the same decline. So, based on my Maine experiences, the graphs are spot-on.

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    That does not make an sense.

    DNR limited the PSCR trollers to six rods and barbless hooks. Since that was such a huge topic - figured that was the only thing wrong with the Rockfish.

    Sorry , but had to throw salt in that wound.


    Now , maybe , just maybe fish managers will start to listen to what many have been saying for years.

    Good start would be to go to a one fish per angler summer limit - EVERYWHERE. Not just the bay but off the coast as well.
    One quick rule change would cut the harvest by roughly 50%. Might only be needed a year or two.
    Everyone pitches in - equal across the board.
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    I have been tod the Snook population was in dire straits in south Florida until the net ban was implemented. Once the net ban took effect the stocks of juvenile Snook began to increase. More than any other fish the Snook is revered down here like rockfish up north. There is an almost religious fervor when it comes to Snook, people who cheat are reported to our DNR all the time especially spear fishermen who like to kill them in the inlets when they are spawning. Last year a spear fisherman with a big female Snook was caught going to his truck by a FWC officer, lost his truck a 2009 Ford 250, all his diving equipment, huge fine and 16 weekends in the pokey. This is what Maryland needs to do.

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    Wino - Right there sums it all up with poachers and how Fla. and Md are so different.

    That poacher ( spear fisherman ) lost all that for just ONE illegal fish. Figure the truck was about $40,000 , dive gear - guess $500.00 or so , a good size fine plus 32 days in jail. Again - for one fish.

    I'll put money on it - other divers in the area heard about that and would not even consider shooting a Snook out of season.

    Now in Md - hell , get caught with over 100 poached Rock - it gets reduced to around 12 and poacher gets a small fine and PBJ.

    Other Md poachers just smile and keep on stealing fish.
    They say that life's a carousel - spinning fast, you've got to ride it well.

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