catch numbers of menhaden in bay?
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    Default catch numbers of menhaden in bay?

    Anyone know where I can find real numbers for menhaden catch in the bay

    Is 51,000mt what reduction industry actually has been taking in bay?

    Or for both , the reduction and baitfish industries?

    I was of the understanding Asmfc sets separate caps for both industries..??

    But I am very glad --------
    The commission acknowledged the bay as a nursery ground for many species that rely on menhaden for food.

    http://delawarepublic.org/post/menha...oss-east-coast

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    Here is a link to the motions.
    http://www.asmfc.org/files/Meetings/...ry_Nov2017.pdf

    This was the motion.
    Main Motion as Substituted Move to select Option B: cap set at 51,000 metric tons and sub ‐ option B: no rollover of unused cap permitted. Motion passes (Roll Call: In Favor – ME, NH, MA, RI, CT, NY, PA, DE, MD, PRFC, NC, SC, GA, FL; Opposed – NJ, VA; Abstentions – NOAA Fisheries, USFWS).

    This was the wording in the amendment

    Option B: Cap Set At 51,000 mt
    The Chesapeake Bay Reduction Fishery Cap is reduced to 51,000 metric tons. This value represents an approximation of the five-year average of reduction harvest from the Chesapeake Bay between 2012 and 2016. An approximate value is used because reduction landings in the Chesapeake Bay are confidential.

    Draft Amendment 3 to the fisheries management plan can be found at:
    http://www.asmfc.org/files/Meetings/...al_Nov2017.pdf

    The bait guys have additional quota This is where it gets confusing. The total allowable catch was set to 216 MT. The motion that past on allocation was:

    "Move to select:
    -- Section 4.3.2 Allocation Method: Option C, Jurisdiction Allocation with a Fixed Minimum with a 0.5%
    fixed minimum; Allocation Timeframe: 2009‐2011
    -- Section 4.3.3 Quota Transfers Option A: Quota Transfers Permitted
    -- Section 4.3.4 Quota Rollover Option A: Unused Quota May Not Be Rolled Over
    -- Section 4.3.5 Incidental Catch and Small Scale Fisheries: Option B, modified to include purse seines
    smaller than 150 fathom long by 8 fathom deep would be considered small scale gear.
    -- Section 4.3.6 Episodic Events Option A: 1% Set Aside

    Option C: Jurisdiction Allocation with Minimum Base Allocation.
    Under this option, all jurisdictions are allocated a fixed minimum amount of quota, including
    jurisdictions which have not previously been allocated quota (Table 3). A timeframe must be
    chosen in Tier 2 to determine the allocation percentages.

    From the press release the amount VA gets 78.66% of the TAC. It is not clear in the document what the split is between the purse seine and non purse seine fishery in Virginia.

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    On the bright side It looks like we gained a little ground for now in the Chesapeake Bay . A metric ton is 2205 lbs.
    Fishing can be anything you want it to be

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    The questions are: Have they been catching less than the allowed quota for the past several years because they can not find decent fish?

    Alternately:

    Have they found better product by fishing more outside of the bay and it is economically a good thing to do?

    Or

    Have they moved the operations out of the bay for ecological reasons hoping to see improvements during the years when they are doing the key ecological studies?

    Or

    Have they moved the operations out of the bay for political reasons?

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    Before we get too excited, what has the catch actually been in the bay the last several years? Not the limit the actual landings. This may just be playing with numbers.

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    The actual landings over the previous three years was, more-or-less, 51 MT, it is in the report somewhere. Due to federal rules they do not release the actual numbers when less than 3 entities are involved in the statistics.

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