Tidal Fish Forum banner
1 - 20 of 26 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
643 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
There was supposed to be a trial today in St. Mary's County for Mr Joseph Janda...A waterman that has 42 previous violations, and only paid $2800 total for all previous violations.......The CCA sent out notice last week and requested all to send letters to the judge...Anybody hear what happened today???? Thanks
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
48 Posts
He showed up without a lawyer and was given a continuance until Feb. 2009. Apparently the county prosecutor said he had NO priors, but that only applied to St. Mary's Co. I heard this second hand from someone who was there...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
643 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Thanks, I'm Not surprised to hear that...Maybe their plan was that everyone will forget by then, and not be surprised when he goes back and gets another slap....What difference does it matter in which county he was caught? He still got caught, over 40 times, on the water, breaking the laws...So I guess he'll get a slap and a little fine because it's his first offense in St. Mary's County...I don't understand....:confused:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
185 Posts
It is unfortunate that the judges in Maryland do not deal with poachers, such as Mr. Janda, in the same manner in which the judges do down south.



Eleven plead guilty in Benton County court
By Bob Hodge (Contact)
Sunday, December 21, 2008

A big poaching case in West Tennessee has ended with those involved paying some big penalties.

Eleven of 12 individuals charged with shooting 169 wood ducks - 121 more than the legal two-day bag limit for 12 hunters - have pleaded guilty to shooting over the bag limit and hunting over bait in Benton County General Sessions Court.

They were charged during the September wood duck season after one of the individuals showed cell phone pictures of the ducks that had been killed to another hunter. The hunter who saw the photos tipped off the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency.

Seven were fined $669 plus court costs and were required to pay $2,000 in restitution and had their hunting privileges stripped for four years.

Five of the seven - Joel Rumsey, Chase Scurlock, Jacob Scurlock, Matthew Warren and Jeff Warren - live in Waverly. Brad Mangrum lives in McEwen and Charles Banes lives in Burns.

Bill Mashaw of New Johnsonville and Brian Lee of Waverly lost their hunting privileges for a year, paid $669 in fines plus court costs and have to pay $200 in restitution.

Monty Daniel of New Johnsonville will appear in court Jan. 7 and a juvenile involved in the case was sentenced to unsupervised probation until his 18th birthday.

"I am satisfied with the case and very pleased with the work officers did to bring these poachers to the court system," said Gary Cook, manager of TWRA's Region I. "In the end we can only do that . . . bring it to the court system."

So far Christopher Cole of Camden has paid the biggest price.

Cole was a rookie officer with the Jackson Police Department when he was charged, but did not report the incident to his supervisors. He was suspended from his job Nov. 5.

He pleaded guilty to two counts of shooting over the limit and hunting over bait Nov. 12 and was fined $400, required to pay $2,000 and was stripped of his hunting privileges for seven years.

Two days later he resigned from the police department.

After getting the tip, TWRA officers found the men hunting a pond near the Big Sandy River on Sunday, Sept. 14. The pond had been baited with shelled corn.

Some of the pictures the poachers took with their cells made their way onto the Internet.

Because Tennessee is a member of the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact, the men cannot purchase licenses in five of the states bordering Tennessee while their hunting privileges are suspended.

Poacher Gets Life: Jimmy Daniel Prater of Waynesboro has been stripped of his hunting privileges for life after his third poaching conviction.

Wayne County Circuit Court Judge Robert Jones also sentenced Prater to 80 days in jail and he must pay $3,200 in fines and court costs. Prater's offenses include spotlighting deer, hunting in a closed season, falsifying a kill tag and hunting on a revoked license.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
26,227 Posts
I really like the third conviction and lost his privileges for life :clapping2::clapping2:.
Now that is a real penalty - not a slap on the wrist :clap:.
 

·
Tidal Fish Super Subscriber - I rock!
Joined
·
3,298 Posts
I really like the third conviction and lost his privileges for life :clapping2::clapping2:.
Now that is a real penalty - not a slap on the wrist :clap:.
Skip losing his privileges for life sounds like good justice .............. but that's not gonna stop him from hunting ........ shoot 121 birds over the limit and then finally get caught baiting .............. wonder how many other times he got away with it .............. he'll be back and get another fine of less than $20 a bird ............ about what you'd pay at a hunting preserve ........
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
859 Posts
It is unfortunate that the judges in Maryland do not deal with poachers, such as Mr. Janda, in the same manner in which the judges do down south.

Eleven plead guilty in Benton County court
By Bob Hodge (Contact)
Sunday, December 21, 2008

A big poaching case in West Tennessee has ended with those involved paying some big penalties.

Eleven of 12 individuals charged with shooting 169 wood ducks - 121 more than the legal two-day bag limit for 12 hunters - have pleaded guilty to shooting over the bag limit and hunting over bait in Benton County General Sessions Court.

They were charged during the September wood duck season after one of the individuals showed cell phone pictures of the ducks that had been killed to another hunter. The hunter who saw the photos tipped off the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency.

Seven were fined $669 plus court costs and were required to pay $2,000 in restitution and had their hunting privileges stripped for four years.

Five of the seven - Joel Rumsey, Chase Scurlock, Jacob Scurlock, Matthew Warren and Jeff Warren - live in Waverly. Brad Mangrum lives in McEwen and Charles Banes lives in Burns.

Bill Mashaw of New Johnsonville and Brian Lee of Waverly lost their hunting privileges for a year, paid $669 in fines plus court costs and have to pay $200 in restitution.

Monty Daniel of New Johnsonville will appear in court Jan. 7 and a juvenile involved in the case was sentenced to unsupervised probation until his 18th birthday.

"I am satisfied with the case and very pleased with the work officers did to bring these poachers to the court system," said Gary Cook, manager of TWRA's Region I. "In the end we can only do that . . . bring it to the court system."

So far Christopher Cole of Camden has paid the biggest price.

Cole was a rookie officer with the Jackson Police Department when he was charged, but did not report the incident to his supervisors. He was suspended from his job Nov. 5.

He pleaded guilty to two counts of shooting over the limit and hunting over bait Nov. 12 and was fined $400, required to pay $2,000 and was stripped of his hunting privileges for seven years.

Two days later he resigned from the police department.

After getting the tip, TWRA officers found the men hunting a pond near the Big Sandy River on Sunday, Sept. 14. The pond had been baited with shelled corn.

Some of the pictures the poachers took with their cells made their way onto the Internet.

Because Tennessee is a member of the Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact, the men cannot purchase licenses in five of the states bordering Tennessee while their hunting privileges are suspended.

Poacher Gets Life: Jimmy Daniel Prater of Waynesboro has been stripped of his hunting privileges for life after his third poaching conviction.

Wayne County Circuit Court Judge Robert Jones also sentenced Prater to 80 days in jail and he must pay $3,200 in fines and court costs. Prater's offenses include spotlighting deer, hunting in a closed season, falsifying a kill tag and hunting on a revoked license.
as long as your not commercial, that would happen around here too. the average guy is screwed. the average commercial, not so much.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
26,227 Posts
I'm willing to bet if he gets caught hunting/poaching again - it will not go over easy with the judge.For some reason- not having a license brings down more sh*t then anything from a judge.I guess it shows disrespect for the system or something.

Often our local judges give out harsher sentence for not having a license then the actual crime.

I really like the surrounding state thing also.Imagine poachers here in Md , not being able to legally fish/hunt in Penn, Va, Del,W Va and NC or NJ. That sure would make them think twice about poaching.

Sounds like Tenn. takes it seriously :clapping2: - maybe our DNR will follow their lead.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,127 Posts
Apparently the county prosecutor said he had NO priors, but that only applied to St. Mary's Co.
These are state laws being violated, not county laws. That doesn't make any sense.

At least this means that I too got a continuance, and now I'll get around to writing to the prosecutor.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
859 Posts
These are state laws being violated, not county laws. That doesn't make any sense.

At least this means that I too got a continuance, and now I'll get around to writing to the prosecutor.
prosecuters father is an avid fisherman. and he fishes himself.

edit: nevermind, seems he has gone in to private practice..
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,127 Posts
This guy sounds like a real winner.

Since his 10/09/2008 arrest in St. Mary's County, for which his trial was scheduled today, he's picked up a few additional pieces of paper.

He was popped for 89 in a 55...
He was caught with undersized oysters in Somerset County...
He was caught with undersized oysters in Dorchester County...
He was "spinning wheels" and driving recklessly in Talbot County...
And just this past Monday, he was charged with Malicious Destruction of Property and Disturbing the Peace.

M'boy gets around.

Oh, and he's on probation until 08/08/2009 on a 04/23/2006 Resisting Arrest charge that had almost two years of suspended sentence.

It would be a shame if his Probation Officer found out about his recent activities.

Maryland Judiciary Case Search
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,295 Posts
Writing letters to judges makes everyone feel good except the judge. Remember they are not like legislators in Annapolis- in their courtrooms THEY THINK theya re GOD and their word is law. I think it hurts more that helps sometimes. We tried that in Baltimore County curcuit court years ago with Danny Beck and I actually think they went easy on him because of the letters-something about daring to question the judges authority. Don't get me wrong- this dirtbag deserves to lose his license for life but that's isn't the way this state works. Just my personal 2 cents.

One fo the reasons the legislature doesn't like to impose MANDATORY sentinces for cetain offenses is for the same reason. A judge would rather find a offender Not Guilty rather than allowing the leguslature tell them what to do- I was personally told that by a legislator I trusted years ago.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
185 Posts
Thanks for the contact information Ragnad. It is interesting that Mr. Fritz is a past chair of the St. Mary's County chapter of Ducks Unlimited. Based on his affiliation with DU, you would think that he would be sensitive to matters like this.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
859 Posts
Thanks for the contact information Ragnad. It is interesting that Mr. Fritz is a past chair of the St. Mary's County chapter of Ducks Unlimited. Based on his affiliation with DU, you would think that he would be sensitive to matters like this.
you would also think that he would recuse himself from prosecuting a rape case.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
859 Posts
Why do you say that Captbuckster?
ole fritz has a well known past to local residents. you could prolly google it. i think wash post did a story about it. remember, this is a county where the sherriff had all his deputies by local papers that had run a not so nice news story on him the day before elections. so, yes, deputies on the clock were told to go around to all the vending machines and stores and buy up st. mary's today on the eve before an election.

fritz is local. being a waterman is a respectable way of life around here, generations deep. I would expect that fritz would be excessively lenient in his pursuit of this guy.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,952 Posts
Guys,

By all means I wouldn't let the pressure off Mr. Fritz, but there is some hope that justice will be served. During the first hearing, the Assistant State's Attorney said that he was seeking the maximum penalties in Mr. Janda's case. That tells me that Mr. Fritz is reading his email, and has recieved the message loud and clear. The first CCA action alert generated over 120 emails to Mr. Fritz, and CCA intends to send another action alert to it's members before Janda's case is heard on 2-13-09.

If you're not a CCA member, but would still like to sign up for action alerts, you can do so here: CCA Maryland Grassroots Action Center
 
1 - 20 of 26 Posts
Top