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I really could care less but isn't it a little weak to wait until it's basically over to back the obvious winner? I mean we all know Obama is gonna win. To me he's just jumping aboard the train because he can read the writing on the wall. To me he's always been a huge waste of potential anyway.
 

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It could have been different. I guess even Colin appreciates a good handout....

Could Mike Ditka have derailed Barack Obama's ascendancy?

By Chris Chase

Barack Obama's easy win in the 2004 Illinois Senate race catapulted him to national fame and set him on his current path toward the White House. It was a convincing victory that is now but a footnote in the career of the Democratic presidential nominee. But that victory wasn't as assured as it appears in retrospect. For a few days in the summer of '04 there was the very real possibility that the Republican opponent in Obama's first major election battle race would be Chicago Bears coaching legend Mike Ditka.
Jack Ryan had won the Republican primary that year, but dropped out of the race after the release of embarrassing papers from his high-profile divorce with actress Jeri Ryan. The vacancy left GOP leaders in the state scrambling to find a replacement. With fears that the election was all but lost, Republicans wanted a major name to turn the tide. Ditka was that name.
For days the press played up the "will he or won't he" stories about Ditka's possible candidacy. The Drudge Report even said that Ditka would declare his entry into the race. But, in the end, Ditka rebuffed the offer, saying he didn't want to go through the rigors of a campaign or give up his lucrative jobs as an NFL analyst at ESPN or as an endorser of a casino and car dealership.
There's no way to know whether Ditka would have won but, remember, Obama was still a virtual unknown in Illinois in June of '04. Had Ditka run and won, Obama most-assuredly wouldn't be running for president today. Either way, the Hall of Famer almost certainly would have received more than the 27% of votes that eventual nominee Alan Keyes garnered in November. And you know he'd have locked up the endorsements of these three potential voters.
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Jack Ryan had won the Republican primary that year, but dropped out of the race after the release of embarrassing papers from his high-profile divorce with actress Jeri Ryan. But, in the end, Ditka rebuffed the offer, saying he didn't want to go through the rigors of a campaign or give up his lucrative jobs as an NFL analyst at ESPN or as an endorser of a casino and car dealership.
typical. Puts his wallet first. And Jack Ryan? Just another skeevy perv. Jeri Ryan is hawt, he was a tool....
 

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I really could care less but isn't it a little weak to wait until it's basically over to back the obvious winner? I mean we all know Obama is gonna win. To me he's just jumping aboard the train because he can read the writing on the wall. To me he's always been a huge waste of potential anyway.
I'm not quite ready to go that far, but those thoughts have crossed my mind. I was disappointed with how he allowed himself to be steamrolled while Sec. State, then privately blamed Rice for being weak. I suspect that he is prepared to try to redeem himself in the same office again. I know he is, actually. The question is whether he will be asked.

I do give him a little slack for the late endorsement given his personal relationship with McCain. I recently released the dogs on an ethics probe of a politician who I know as an acquaintance. I'm certainly not good friends with the person, but it nevertheless bothers me every time I think about it even though I know it was the right thing to do. I cannot imagine how it would feel if I was someone who actually had a national audience and the person whose ship I was helping to sink was a friend.
 

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Gonna believe anyone that says McCain is actually pushing the party too far right?


Geeeeez give me a break, he's lookin for a job.


Always been a country club RINO anyway.
 

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So you actually think that Colin Powell will be hired as Something, in the BO admin ???

I'm contemplating if BO can actually hire ANYONE, given the current state of affairs we are in.. Normally paybacks are due, and I understand that.. But who in the hell wants to work that badly in a presidential admin, under these conditions ??? BO's Treasurey Sec, better have a magic wand and a suit of armour...
 

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Obama stated this morning he has a position for Colin Powell, but will have to talk to Colin to find out how big of a position he wants.
 

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So you actually think that Colin Powell will be hired as Something, in the BO admin ???

I'm contemplating if BO can actually hire ANYONE, given the current state of affairs we are in.. Normally paybacks are due, and I understand that.. But who in the hell wants to work that badly in a presidential admin, under these conditions ??? BO's Treasurey Sec, better have a magic wand and a suit of armour...
I am told that only one president in modern times has had genuine difficulty filling cabinet and other senior positions due to lack of interest: Bush II. For the most part, people jump as these positions for many reasons, power being one, of course, legacy being another, standard career stepping stone being yet another. People are currently getting in line to serve in the next administration. I don't know who Obama will select (if he wins), but I do know the names of many of those in line and you might be surprised by more than a few of them (including one or two who may continue for a while from the past administration). I suspect that Obama is going to disappoint more than a few liberals.
 

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I dunno, I think Powell is too smart for politics. He dabbled here and dabbled there, real $$$$ in public speaking, which he is more than qualified for. But what do I know.. I really do *think* BO's gonna win by 15 plus points, we'll have the big celebration and then the tough job begins to fill all the job openings. Can't imagine who wants to leave a cushy job to take on all the problems that Bush has left behind.
 

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I really do not understand why either of these guys (or anyone for that matter) even wants to be president.
 
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