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I'm confused. How can NC write you a ticket for fishing in federal waters (tuna, mahi, etc.) for not having a NC saltwater license when you did not fish in NC???!!!! If you have your federal HMS permit why do you need a NC license? You are simply just using the port/ramp. I WOULD RATHER PAY A RAMP FEE!!!

I did not find any kind of justification for it other than a stern, "if you leave a NC port, or enter NC waters to fish, you have to have a license" period.

Does this also mean that if I am simply pleasure boating and happen to have fishing gear on board and "the man" checks me out for a license, is it at his discretion to write me up or not?
 

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the answer is no to your question, and here's a few more

If I purchase the new CRFL does it allow me to fish in inland waters?
The CRFL allows you to fish in coastal and joint fishing waters, but not in inland or fresh waters. If you want a license to fish in all state waters, you may purchase a Unified Fishing License.
What constitutes a disabled veteran under this licensing structure?
To qualify for a Resident Disabled Veteran CRFL, you have to be a veteran that is 50 percent or more disabled as determined by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. The license remains valid for the lifetime of the liensee so long as the icensee remains 50 percent or more disabled.
What is the definition of totally disabled being used to qualify for the Resident Totally Disabled CRFL?
An individual has to be a resident of the state and totally and permanently disabled as determined by the Social Security Administration.
How do I qualify for a fishing license subsistence waiver?
A county Department of Social Services will issue a waiver to any individual who receives benefits from Medicaid, Food Stamps, or Work First Family Assistance through that county's Department of Social Services upon request.
If I am an ocean pier owner or a for-hire boat operator, do I have to purchase the CRFL blanket license?
The blanket license is optional for piers and for-hire boat operators. It is entirely up to these operators if they want to purchase a blanket license, otherwise their fishing patrons to have their own individual licenses.
Are fishermen who use gigs to recreationally harvest fish required to have this license?
Yes.
I harvest oysters and clams recreationally, do I have to have this license?
No. The CRFL is only required for the recreational taking of finfish.
If I take my wife and a 13-year-old son out fishing with me, do we all have to have the CRFL, or will my license cover everyone?
Anyone under the age of 16 is not required to have a license to recreationally take finfish in coastal waters. If you and your wife are both fishing, you will both need a license.
If I am out fishing in the Pamilco Sound with my family, which consists of an 11-year old and a 17-year old, and I am the only one that has a CRFL, how many possession limits of fish can we keep?
Two, your possession limit and your 11-year-old's possession limit. Your 17-year-old is required to have a CRFL to take finfish recreationally.
When will the Coastal Recreational Fishing License be required?
The license is required beginning Jan.1, 2007.
Where can I purchase a license?
The license may be purchased or renewed at WRC license agents, which includes all DMF offices. Most Wal-Mart's, along with most sports and bait and tackle shops, sell WRC licenses. The WRC also sells licenses through a toll-free number and on-line.
I have a lifetime hunting and fishing license issued by the WRC; will this license cover me in coastal waters?
Yes. All license holders who purchase a WRC Lifetime Sportsman or Lifetime Comprehensive fishing license prior to Jan.1, 2006, will be exempted from purchasing the CRFL.
Will I need a license to fish on a private or public pier?
Yes, unless the public pier has purchased a blanket license.
Will I need a license to fish from the shore?
Yes, if you are fishing recreationally for finfish in coastal waters, you will need a CRFL.
I live in a coastal county, but I have a private, freshwater pond on my property, that I have stocked, do I need a CRFL to fish from my pond?
No. Private, freshwater ponds are exempt from the licensing requirement.
If I have a CRFL, can people fish on my private boat without purchasing a license?
No, they must all have a license if you are fishing in coastal waters, unless they are under 16 years of age.
What if I lose my license, are replacement licenses available?
Anglers who have lost their license may apply for a another license to be reissued for a $5 fee.
Can I sell my catch if I have a CRFL?
No, seafood harvested under this license is for personal consumption and cannot be sold.
I have a Standard Commercial Fishing License; do I still need a CRFL to go fishing for fun?
Yes, if you are recreationally fishing for finfish, you need the CRFL.
Which recreational gear use beside hook and line would require someone to purchase a CRFL?
Any type of recreational finfish harvest activity not included under the N.C. Recreational Commercial Gear License will require this license. This includes, but is not limited to spears, gigs, hook-and-line, bait-and-line, seines less than 30 feet, dip nets, landing nets ,and cast nets.
I have a Recreational Commercial Gear License (RCGL); do I still need a CRFL to go fishing for fun with a rod and reel?
Yes.

Do I need a CRFL to catch shellfish recreationally?
No.
Do I need a Saltwater Fishing License to use a bait and line to catch crabs?
No.
If I hold a CRFL can I keep all the fish and seafood I catch?
No, you will be held to the state's recreational size and possession limits.
Can I transfer my CRFL to a family member or other person if I'm not using it?
No, it is unlawful to buy, sell, lend, borrow, assign, or otherwise transfer a license to any other individual.

I am a member of the military currently stationed in North Carolina, but my legal residence is in another state. Do I have to purchase a nonresident license?
Nonresident members of the armed forces, including their spouses and children under 18 will be considered residents of North Carolina for the purposes of purchasing and using a Coastal Recreational Fishing or Unified License.
Why do I have to participate in the DMF's biological data sampling and survey programs?
The purpose of the CRFL is to gather better data about North Carolina's coastal recreational fishing activity so the DMF can manage fish stocks more effectively. Fisheries managers need to have better estimates on how many people are recreationally fishing and how many and what types of fish they are catching. Sampling and surveys help provide this information.
How will the CRFL money be spent?
It will go into two marine resource funds and be distributed through the Marine Fisheries and Wildlife Resources commissions. It must be used to manage, protect, restore, develop, cultivate, conserve and/or enhance North Carolina's marine resources.
I sometimes have migrant workers that help me on my farm, are they entitled to a CRFL?
Yes, a migrant farm worker who has in their possession a temporary certification of their status from the Rural Employment Service of the N.C. Employment Security Commission on a form provided by the WRC is entitled to the privileges of a resident of the state.
Are any free fishing days associated with the CRFL?
Yes, every July 4 has been declared a free fishing day, but people still have to abide by recreational size and possession limits.
I am an out-of-state student attending East Carolina University; do I have to buy a nonresident license?
Nonresident students attending a university, college, or community college in the state are considered to be residents and are eligible for resident fishing licenses.
For more license information, please call the DMF at 252-726-7021 or 800-682-2632,
or e-mail [email protected]
 

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.....How can NC write you a ticket for fishing in federal waters.....for not having a NC saltwater license.....You are simply just using the port/ramp.....
The best answer to your question is this: They can write you a ticket because that is how the NC law is written.

Every state has their own set of laws. This is how the NC legislators wrote theirs.

Sort of like when someone from SC drives into NC on Hwy 17. The SC speed limit is 60mph and the NC speed limit is 55mph. There it is on the sign...that's the law. You obey it or the NC State Troopers will no doubt give you a ticket. And I doubt anyone would ask them this question, "How can a NC State Trooper write you a ticket for running 60 when I was simply using the road to pass through the state?"

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The best answer to your question is NO. If you are not fishing and you have no fish on board when you are checked, than you need not a fishing license.

This goes hand in hand with question and answer #9.
 

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I agree with the answer in reguards to pleasure boating...or catch & release fishing for that matter. The law, as written, is for 'posession' of fish the state has limits on. It is the exact same as having striped bass or drum on board and therefore not being allowed to go beyond the 3-mile limit. You can not possess drum out there. The same is true of the NC fishing licence...only in reverse. It's a possestion thing...not a 'where you caught it' thing.

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Thanks guys. So it's just a possesion thing. Seems the stats they want to accumulate for the # of fisherman in NC will be skewed a bit because of VA and SC folks leaving their port to fish offshore of NC. :rolleyes: It' such a bunch of BS...
 

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It's the same in FL and most other states - has been for many years. Wanna play (fish), gotta pay. So long as they use the funds for good things like artificial reefs and boat ramps, like they do in FL, it's a good thing for us. Maybe we can start a petition to use some of the funds to sink more inshore wrecks and artificial reefs off Hatteras to replace the ones wiped out by time and Isabel. Maybe then the winter baitfish and bluefin will return, and we'll have more fall-back spots on slow days offshore.

Besides the fact that the money will be used to improve our saltwater resources, the annual non-resident license only costs $30. I don't like governmental fees any more than you, but either of us can make way more money than that in the time it takes you to worry about it, complain about it on your computer, contemplate how to get around it, and argue with The Man about it.
 
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