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January 4, 2007
Pelosi Takes Charge, Calls for Abortion Ban
by Scott Ott

(2007-01-04) — Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, became the first female Speaker of the House today, and immediately called for a ban on abortion to promote social justice because almost 60 percent of aborted children are ethnic minorities.

“It took a long time to get a woman Speaker,” said Rep. Pelosi, “because we killed off 30-to-40 million potential Democrat voters in the last 35 years. Otherwise, by now we could have had a black lesbian Speaker, universal tax-funded healthcare, and a ban on ownership of guns, personal automobiles and private investment accounts.”

The Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling, she said, was “a Republican plot to wipe out non-white racial groups, especially the poor, and thus to slow the growth of the Democrat party.”
 

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Onlya child would post from satirical fiction (only identified as such when I called him on posting without giving credit to Scrapple Face) and then proceed to defend it as fact. It does serve one purpose...it keeps this infantile **** sapiens from concentration upon and endlessly commenting on the other male posters gonads, balls, testicles and male masturbation. I for one support Ratherfishy masturbating as often as possible. A low sperm count may kill his genetic line.
 

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ScrappleFace Editor Responds to Real Editor

by Scott Ott

To: ScrappleFace Readers
Fr: Scott Ott, editor, ScrappleFace.com
[You can listen to a portion of this post at ScrappleFace Audio.]
In the four and a half years since ScrappleFace began, my little satirical stories have reached millions of people. Those who read them on the website, for the most part, understand the satirical context. However, thanks to the magic of clip-and-paste, many stories have been ripped from their context and distributed via email, listserv and forum, causing consternation and ill-will in some cases. Normally, the vast editorial staff at ScrappleFace when notified of such offenses, dutifully ignores them, preferring to let the work speak for itself. We simply continue to ply the trade of creating "fake but accurate" news that we learned in journalism school, and at the feet of Dan Rather and The New York Times.
However, today we received the note below from an apparently "real" editor, and felt moved to respond. The following, both the email we received and our response, is non-satirical. (That means it is not satire.)
On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:08 PM, SF Bay View wrote:
Dear Scott,
I hope the story you wrote, "One Year Later, Some Katrina Victims Still Slow to Respond", is satire and is not based on comments actually made by Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. An excerpt from your story had been sent to me, and I forwarded it to this list, which is read by Katrina survivors and people who want to support them. I had thought the excerpt was authentic until just now, when I read the full story on your website and detected that the entire website is satire. I might not have been fooled (assuming the story IS satire) if I didn't know Pelosi. But I do. I live in her district and know her as extremely cold and callous, often blaming the victim - just the way you portrayed her.
If your story is satire, please tell that to the people on this list. As you can see, your story has caused them immeasurable pain. Think for a moment how it would feel to be condemned by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the person next in line to become president of the U.S. if something should happen to the president and vice president … and a woman at that! We all expect a woman to have some empathy or at least some compassion.
To me and to the readers of our newspaper, Katrina survivors are heroes. Just having survived the worst catastrophe ever to hit the U.S. is heroic. And the fact that they are members of this email listserve, where every day they reach out from their own pain and loss and give material help, resources, encouragement and love to others in desperate need, is heroic. I even read on this list the last words tapped out by a man who then died from the Katrina floodwaters that had poisoned his body.
After reading these messages, I hope and expect that you will be moved to use your writing talent and your very impressive and obviously well read website to generate great waves of help and support for Katrina survivors. The members of this listserve can no doubt give you suggestions and guidance about how you can be most effective. We need you to be a hero too!
Mary Ratcliff
San Francisco Bay View
[email protected]
www.sfbayview.com (badly hacked but coming back - soon)
The following is the non-satirical response from ScrappleFace editor-in-chief Scott Ott:
Dear Mary Ratcliff,
First, here's a link to a site that contains dozens of links that provide ways for people to help Katrina survivors. May all who read this visit and give.
Your email address indicates you are an editor of something. Part of an editor's job is to check sources before "going to press." You clipped and pasted a bit forwarded to you from a satire website and sent it out as if it were something that Rep. Nancy Pelosi said. Now, you have asked me to write to this group of people (on a listserv) who have endured some of the harsh realities of life, that I might somehow atone for the confusion you have caused.
I embrace the opportunity.
In the immediate aftermath of Katrina, journalists sought someone to blame. They, predictably, found President George Bush was the best scapegoat. But in lashing out, yet again, at their favorite source of all discontent, they missed a bigger target. If anyone "out there" is to be blamed, it is the large, remote, centralized federal government which has become a surrogate father to so many millions of Americans.
Over the decades, we have ceded power, authority and responsibility to the federal government far beyond anything envisioned or desired by our founders. As a result, instead relying on our own intelligence, resources and ability to work with others in our communities to solve problems, we have turned to Washington D.C..
This is not a matter of 'blaming the victim', because the victim has become so immersed in this twisted view of human life that he cannot see what has happened. The federal government's dehumanizing effect has torn up neighborhoods, torn apart families and turned brave, capable people into compliant recipients of redistributed wealth.
The problem is that the morsels of that wealth never provide enough to do anything other than keep folks in a perpetual state of dependence upon the State. Even if those morsels became chunks big enough to choke a horse, the dependency would remain. The federal government has become not only the safety net, it is everything from the crib blanket to the casket lining.
The danger of centralized government control is not that it robs a few dollars from rich people and gives them to the poor. It's not even that such a bureaucratic behemoth spawns the waste of billions of dollars. After all, it's just money.
No, the threat of this system is that it strips a man of what makes him a man, and turns him away from his inner resources, or the inclination to partner with neighbors to solve problems. It humiliates him, blinds him and ultimately cripples him.
Of course, when a government-built levee bursts, and a government-subsidized house is immersed, the natural, reasonable reaction of the displaced person is to turn to the government; both to blame for the disaster and to petition for relief. Many of the homes that were destroyed belonged to middle- and upper-class citizens as well, and yet still somehow even some of those people turned toward Washington to vent anger and cry out for restoration.
Sadly, the story that rarely gets told are the daily acts of bravery, fortitude and cooperation in dozens of communities where people - often through the agency of local churches - have pulled together in reliance upon each other and in a shared dependence upon superintending grace. Work crews that report to no one in Washington have poured into the region to cart off debris and help lay the foundations for a better future. Against all odds, many of the washed-out residents have worked long hours, endured separation from family and almost-overwhelming hardship in order to rebuild what the waters ravaged. These people are beyond number, and below the media radar.
Journalists, by habit, prefer stories they can receive from the tip of a spoon held by an "expert" or official. They, too, have turned to big government and have become dependent upon her for their sustenance. What most Americans know of the situation in the hurricane zone is only what TV or other news sources tell them. Most of that information comes from "authorities" in the government. The reporters have told us that the real story is all about the government's response. They have largely ignored the responsible activities of thousands of unseen hands restoring towns, parks, homes and lives.
Success stories are buried. Tragedy is blared from the housetops. It's a self-reinforcing cycle that further deepens dependence upon the government, and further strips the dignity of the person.
The victims of Katrina are not really the victims of Katrina herself. The tragedy began long before the hurricane hit.
Natural disasters have always happened and always will. While, mercifully, they don't occur every day in every place, they are common enough that we ought to have an expectation that bad things can and will happen. We need to cultivate the inner resources in ourselves, our children and our neighborhoods to cope with the inevitable. When we cede that power and responsibility to the federal government, we surrender a part of what makes us human and leave ourselves more vulnerable to the tempest.
Whether you believe in God or not, you have surely experienced how the human soul sings when we gather in chorus to accomplish a great purpose in the midst of tragedy. It's as if we were designed to work together with our family, friends and neighbors. There is a blessing in it that exceeds the penalty of the curse.
When my own community was hit by flooding some years ago, people stepped off their porches, shouldered sandbags, delivered meals, took in the homeless, wielded shovels against the muck, and generally helped each other in the task of restoration. As awful as that flood was, I will always remember it fondly, not for the harm it did to us and to our property, but for the good it did in us and in our community.
Our state-run schools and spoon-fed media have conditioned us to look to government. They've also trained us to take offense at any expression of love that doesn't result in government intervention and redistribution of taxpayer dollars. 'Compassion' has been redefined as 'entitlement' and thus stripped of its power and utility.
The devastating impact of this mindset is the apparent withering of the individual spirit and of community cooperation which have been the hallmarks of this great nation.
But all is not yet lost, and perhaps not so much is lost as we have been led to believe.
Since what we know about America flows mostly from the media, we can be certain that most of what we know is just plain wrong, or at least atypical. My old journalism professor used to say, 'News is coups, earthquakes and three-legged chickens.'
In other words, Walter Cronkite was exactly wrong to say 'That's the way it is.' Journalists don't report the truth about life. They are carnival barkers selling the unusual, the atypical, the freaks. And we continue to reward them for doing so.
The actual truth about life in our great Republic is quite different from the daily portrayals in the media.
Everywhere in this God-blessed America covert radicals roam, committing seemingly-random acts of kindness - unmonitored, untallied, uncontrolled, unshackled from the federal government. It is, in effect, a shadow government that we have set up for ourselves to promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty.
This decentralized movement of men and women accomplishes most of the great work of charity, compassion and community building. Their individual efforts are a drop in the bucket compared to the ocean of government largess, but in the aggregate and ultimate their service far exceeds anything that government can deliver.
In fact, the vast majority of Americans behave as if the federal government did not exist in their day-to-day lives. This underground movement is entirely healthy and necessary for the maintenance of our Republic and for our pursuit of happiness.
We don't have time to blame anyone for our misfortunes. We're too busy working to overcome them. We don't have faith in some distant bureaucrat, rather we turn to the resources that God has placed near at hand. We lean on our brothers. Many of us call on our Father in our time of need, and He sends our neighbors who love us more than we love ourselves. Later, we will turn to our helpers when they need us and repay the debt, only to learn that no debt existed because acts of compassion shower blessings on giver and receiver alike.
We find these local (and spiritual) solutions not only adequate, but invigorating and inspiring because it is only when we are pressed hard by life that we discover there is more life in us, among us and beyond us than we had imagined in carefree hours.
Sincerely,
Scott Ott, editor
www.ScrappleFace.com
 

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In varying degrees I agree with Ott's summation. In general "news" is that which is out of the ordinary. "Mary had a little lamb"...would make the papers if a OBGYN were involved.
For a different twist. The "poor", in many cases, are not "poor" at all. I recall in a book entitled, I think, "The Corner" a 14 yr old was pocketing $ 350+ per day as a drug runner and thats a bottom of the rung job.
Obviously, the very subject matter leads to speculation but the 2nd economy is huge and the "contribution" to the economy via sales is also huge. In many instances (except where the monies is laundered successfully) no taxes are paid....billions in taxes. Offshore banks were suddenly popular (for drug dealers, the wealthy and politicians).
Another common mistake is to infer that all of the "poor" are lazy ingrates who just live off government checks. The Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz (part of the Clinton administration) point out in The Roaring Nineties p74 "To the poor, this lower employment rate was a huge blessing, reducing welfare rolls....It played a major role in bringing about other salutary changes-natably a sharp drop in the crime rate".
 

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There's no other way around it: When you accuse someone of perpetrating "ethnic cleansing" in any way, shape or form, you are accusing them of genocide.
Genocide. Let that word work its way around your mind for an moment. Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Think about that. And then watch the most grotesque public statement made by any elected official in the United States in the last 100 years.
No, I'm not kidding or reaching for the hyperbole. Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) in the video below accuses the Bush administration of perpetrating "ethnic cleansing by hurricane" in Louisana after Katrina, in order to make Louisiana more Republican. The video and audio quality aren't good, but the words are there. Listen a couple of times if you have to.

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I will not here, in this post, go through all the details of why this is a smear and a lie on the part of Barney Frank. It should be obvious that he's wrong and he's gone so far over the line of acceptable political discourse that there is no turning back for him. I'll just refer you to this article that Chris Regan and I wrote shortly after Katrina devastated the Gulf coast. The upshot of Chris' research at the time was that the local officials in NOLA had a plan, but it was a shoddy plan that would produce a ghost town. And it did. So if there's genocide to be found (and there isn't, regarding Katrina or its aftermath), it's to be found on NOLA's own local elected government. But as I said and stress, there was and is no genocide connected to Katrina in any way, shape or form.
Barney Frank should be held to account for his statement. He should be hounded about it by Fox News and every other journalist with access to him.
To accuse the sitting President of the United States of enacting ethnic cleansing on American soil is to accuse the President of the United States of committing a grave atrocity worthy of impeachment and worse. It is to equate the President of the United States with Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and yes, Saddam Hussein.
The atrocity actually committed here is Barney Frank's shameless assault on the truth. Rep. Barney Frank ought to resign his seat in Congress forthwith. The disgusting statement captured above should mark the end of his political career.
Update: Frank's DC office number is (202)225-5931. I've put in a call and am currently on hold.
And by the way, we captured Frank's comments from YouTube and have our own copy of them. So even if Matthew Stoller or someone else removes them from YouTube, the comments will live on.
Update: I'm no longer on hold. I've spoken with one of Rep. Frank's press representatives, who has promised to call me back.
More: Here's how I see things. If Rep. Frank actually believes what he said, then he believes that there's a mass murderer occupying the Oval Office. Therefore, Frank should introduce articles of impeachment immediately. If he believes what he said, another day in office for Bush is another day that we're ruled by a mass murderer. Congress is empowered to stop the chief executive if there's evidence that he has committed high crimes and misdemeanors. It's hard to imagine a higher crime than perpetrating ethnic cleansing against American citizens on American soil. Being found guilty of such a crime just resulted in the hanging of Saddam Hussein.
Of course, Frank may not actually believe what he said. He may be playing to the Democrat base, or he may be delusional, or he may have just gotten carried away with the sound of his own voice. If any of that is the case, he should go on the record with a full retraction and apology, both to the President and to the American people for accusing their elected President of perpetrating ethnic cleansing. The honorable thing to do after that is resign.
No, I'm not holding my breath that any of that will happen. But Frank's office has promised to call me back. True, they didn't say when they might do so.
Update: Gateway Pundit has some stats for New Orleans post Katrina. No genocide.
Update (AP): I'm pressed with other stuff, but if anyone wants to try to transcribe the entire clip, please do so. The audio's not good but he clearly says, "The policy, I think, is ethnic cleansing by inaction," and then goes on to say that "they" let the hurricane do the ethnic cleansing so that their hands would be clean.
More (Bryan): Per Ace, ethnic cleansing can and usually does include genocide as defined above, but not always. It can also mean the forced removal of a population from one place to another for political and ethnic purposes. That's a weaker definition than the one I'm using and it's not the first thing that comes to mind when someone brings up ethnic cleansing post Kosovo and Rwanda, but it's valid. So perhaps Frank didn't mean out and out genodice, just a treatment of blacks in New Orleans reminiscent of what Saddam did to the Marsh Arabs.
Are you standing by that definition of ethnic cleansing, Congressman? Care to revise and extend your remarks?
Update (Bryan): I just got off the phone with Steve Adamske in Rep. Frank's office. They deny that accusing the President of conducting genocide constituted any part of Frank's comments. Fair enough. They stand by the use of the phrase "ethnic cleansing" as being the Bush policy in Louisiana, which means that Rep. Barney Frank stands by his accusation that the President of the United States has prevented NOLA residents from returning to their pre-Katrina homes for political reasons: to make Louisiana more Republican. It's an accusation that Rep. Frank has made before, actually. His representative used Frank's "ethnic cleansing" comments of last year (at the link) as a defense of these new comments. Wrong is still wrong, no matter when you say it.
Whether Frank meant by "ethnic cleansing" genocide or merely the forced removal or prevention of return for racist and political reasons, it is still over the line and deeply irresponsible, both as a charge and as political rhetoric. On the very day that the new Democratic majority took power, we have Rep. Barney Frank accusing the Bush administration of engaging in reprehensible and nakedly racist policies. Well Congressman, your party is in power now. You can do something about the "ethnic cleansing" of Louisiana if that's what you think has actually taken place. Proffering a shred of evidence to support your position would be a good start.

Update: We have a transcript. Here's an exerpt:
"And, what I believe is, at this point you're not talking about [inaudible], but what you're talking about is, I think, a [inaudible], what you're talking about is when you simply, in a calculated way, refuse to do anything for well over a year … [inaudible] … and [stuttering] I, I, the policy I think here is ethnic cleansing by inaction.​

"It's not ethnic cleansing in the sense that they're killing people or [driving] people out, but what we need to recognize here is that, they're in this happy position for them, where the federal government does nothing, as they become richer and richer, because well not only black people needed housing assistance, but they were [predominantly poor, who did it], to simply not do anything to alleviate this housing crisis which … was being exacerbated by Katrina … [inaudible] they, they, they let the hurricane do the ethnic cleansing, because then they're, all they're doing is not resisting it, that's why I call ethnic cleansing by inaction, and I know that there are people who were very happy that, as a result, … [inaudible] … [so that] Louisiana would become a more widely Republican [city] … [inaudible] … because if you lose 100,000 black voters … then you have to take a state that was prodominately Republican and made it [inaudible]."​
Who are these people who are happy with the results of the "ethnic cleansing by inaction" of Louisiana, Congressman? Names, please. And by couching it the way he has, it's clear that he sees in Katrina's aftermath a reprehensible policy that goes all the way to the top.
The phrase "ethnic cleansing" is very much a loaded one. Its use in this context is beyond the pale of irresponsibility. That the Congressman stands by its use says more about him than it says about Katrina or President Bush. That his party will likely do nothing about his comments says still more, about them.
Update: See-Dubya looks up the definition of "ethnic cleansing" as per the ICC, and finds that Frank has no case against the Bush administration.
That won't stop Rep. Frank of misusing the phrase, nor will it force him back down from it. Only his conscience could do that.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/01/05/barney-frank-accuses-bush-of-genocide/
 

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Onlya child would post from satirical fiction (only identified as such when I called him on posting without giving credit to Scrapple Face) and then proceed to defend it as fact. It does serve one purpose...it keeps this infantile **** sapiens from concentration upon and endlessly commenting on the other male posters gonads, balls, testicles and male masturbation. I for one support Ratherfishy masturbating as often as possible. A low sperm count may kill his genetic line.
Once again afoul of the truth chief mental midget?

You continually disregard the fact that I post SATIRE and FARCE from scrappleface and ignore the author or attribution.....Most in this forum are sharp enough to catch the source and have a sense of humor to appreciate it. Unlike your postings that are editirialized snippets of half truth losely sewn together with your sociopathic conjecture.

Secondarily my comments on "stones" are ALWAYS in reference to your apparent lack of same......Frankly your pedisposition to be preoccupied with my sperm count is deviant at best and needs but a one word reply; ****!

Thirdly, the act I comment on often regarding you and BJ's endless pseado-intellectual musings is MENTAL masterbation. You seem to have the pre-teen predisposition toward repeating the "nasty" part of the word..... get a life ****!
 
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