My grandpa requested I put him on some spot for his birthday. Knew it was gonna be hit or miss but was sure he'd at least have perch to eat. Ended up catching around 20 spot from 8-11" and a ton of perch. Most spot in 21' and a few in 27'. My grandpa wanted to eat the spot so no livelining. Of course when I get on a good amount of spot I can't use them for bait. But it was my grandpa's birthday and he had a blast so that's all that matters.