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Bent over to feed the dog this morning and heard/felt a little iddy-biddy *click* in my lower back...then I couldn't stand back up, at least not without a little pain.

Actually it was more like unholy F&*$%) mother of *[email protected]$^@" pain.

So can hardly walk, sneezing and laughing hurts, and there's a constant ache...then if I move the wrong way, it's like somebody is jabbing a red-hot piece of re-bar into my spine, totally incapacitating.

800 mg of Ibuprofen has done NOTHING. I need some REAL drugs.

I'm showing a movie to my classes today...no F'ing way can I teach at the board or do experiments today. I hate doing that to my students, they deserve better.

So I'm off to the doctor for some horse pills.

Getting old sucks a$$. And the fishing is just starting to get good. DAMMIT :censored: :mad: :((

Carry on.
 

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Sorry to hear that Doug. I taught when feeling poorly at the university some days because the is no such thing as substitutes and the students would get behind on their projects with no good way to catch up.

People who think teaching is easy have never done it. My daughter is in her ninth year of teaching second grade. The students leave at 3 PM and she stays every single night until six to prep for the next day.

Wish I could say it gets better with age but that would not be true. At least in retirement you can veg out quietly at home if not feeling well.

You are not missing much fishing yet.

Get well soon.
 

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Forget the Doctor ......... get yourself to a Chiropractor or an Osteopath if you don't like Chiropractors .......... if you get there soon you will only need 1 or 2 visits and the relief will be immediate. Tha Dr's way is to give you anti inflamatories and muscle relaxers that will nock you loopy for about 10 days. The Chiropractor will adjust your spine back to where is was before and should be normally, to relieve the pressure on the nerve that is caused by the muscle spasm that is causing the muscle inflamation the is putting pressure on the nerve.
Osteopaths do exactly the same thing only they have full medical school accreditations/degrees and can prescribe drugs too.

I've had some back problems for about 20 years and have been both routes more than once. For me, this has been the best and fastest relief. The thing is ... the quicker the spine is adjusted, the fewer the visits necessary and the lesser the pain and possible damage. If you wait a day it usually takes 3 adjustments in usually 5 days ........ if you get there within hours it can only 1 adjustment.

Just my experience ........ hope it helps ......... Back pain has been the most intense and unrelenting pain I've ever experienced and I hate to see others experience it ......

Good Luck Guy !!!!!!!
 

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Doug,

I'm in the same boat. I moved to Kent Island last weekend. Everything was going fine until I had to move my 100+ pound grill by myself. Nothing snapped while I was doing it, but soon there after the pain began. I normally go to a chiropractor for that kind of thing, but since I just moved I hadn't found one yet. I've been toughing it out without even a tylenol for the pain and am slowly recovering. Now I'm fine if I stay on my feet, but as soon as I sit down for too long (which is in the job description for telecommunications researcher) it tightens up and I look like a zombie when I try to stand up and walk again.

If you can, go to a chiropractor (especially if your insurance will cover it). It'll take a few days, but you'll recover quickly.

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Doug,

I made a recent post on a serious fisheries issue and misspelled striper, adding an extra "P". I got 36 remarks criticizing me for the spelling and playing with the word. 4 total serious comments! And now you post a question about back pain, and everyone responds seriously!! Bit of an irony?

Anyhow, I've been through that and am now just healing up a rotator cup after surgery. Lower back issues, and especially with those above age fifty are almost normal. There is a set of exercises you can do to get immediate relief and strengthen your back. If they don't work, you need to start with an MD and get an MRI right away. I suffered for a year, (22 chiropractor apts). with the rotator cup, and within 3 weeks and a simple surgery am fine. I just kept procrastinating on the MRI and my DC kept manipulating something in the area as he thought it was a muscle pull.

Beware that an MD will probably give you pregnisone and ocxcotin, but of which can have side effects. Write me directly if you desire specific names and references. Get it resolved so you can enjoy this fishing season!

Tight lines
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If this is the first major back injury you have had, you are lucky. I had a serious back injury in high school football and pay for it constently. Most of the times its ok. Some times, like this past two weeks, its a killer. I went to lift a log in my back yard and (*&^[email protected]$#%&#(&^$^%#*^#. down for two weeks.

I second the Chiropractor suggestion. She fixes me up everytime. If its your first injury they should be able to fix you up in a couple of weeks.

Getting old is a b*&ch. My wife and I got invited to Puerta Vallarta for a week long vacation the first week of March. Spent six months counting the days to sailfish and bonita on the fly. As soon as I get there I start feeling this pain in my casting elbow. Tendonitis. I was determined not to let this stop me. I chatered a boat and hit the Bahia de Bandaras. When we got back, after many bonita, my elbow felt like it had been mauled by Tony Soprano. I hate getting old.
 

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Doc says probably muscular, that's good. 5-7 days of this scheit, that's bad. I can not even imagine having chronic long-term skeletal back pain...

At 5:30 I had a Percoset and a Flexoril, washed down with a cold Sam Adams :wacko: :zzzzzz: (yeah I know I know, shouldn't do that...but good GOD I needed a beer today).

Bak duzznt hurt no mor...:thumbup:
 

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Doug & Redfish,

I would recommend seeing a good physical therapist as opposed to a chiropracter. A chiro will make an adjustment and that will certainly help; a good PTer will do that and more, adressing muscle tension and relief as well as examining body alignment and imbalances which is often at the heart of why these things occur. It's funny how things seeming unrelated like tight hamstrings can end up putting stress on your back. Many chiropracters are not trained to make that diagnosis.

I've been down this road with a chronic neck condition that a few winters got so bad I walked and move like Frankenstein. Last thing I recommend is the "tough it out, rest and it will get better" approach. It will only ensure that it will go out again at some point in the future.

If you want the name and contact info of my PT guru, send me a PM.
 

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Doug,

Bmail if you need some help. All backpain is not alike. Some is pretty serious. Other causes will go away with simple means. Generalizations from people with limited experience will get you hurt.
 

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Hey, Doug, all these people--including you!!--saying things about getting old. What are you? 42? You don't know from old, my friend.

I'm sorry to hear about your back, that's tough. But you did the right thing going to the doctor. The fishing is just fine, except for this weather; with a bit of luck the weather and your back will get better at the same time. My reading of things is that most back pains resolve themselves on their own with rest and a little TLC. You worry about the few that aren't included in that "most," and you went to the doctor, who told you that this isn't one of them, which is good. It is amazing how you can do some simple little thing, or even nothing, and then your back hurts. (Anyone who understands evolution knows why this happens.)

Please don't be mixing alcohol with those painkillers.

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Hey Doug, sorry to hear about the back.

As Cutter said, be very careful with the back. It could be muscular or it could be something more serious like a disc.

I've got one blown disc in my lower back and two in my neck so I know exactly the pain you speak of.

Be careful of the advice you get because you'll get a different diagnosis and treatment from every person you talk to. I've been to see multiple specialists and chiropractors. The chiropractors I've been to have always advised against any manipulations when I'm having an episode like the one you describe.

Bottom line is be careful with your back. Lay on some ice and chill.

You'll be double hauling in no time. I hope you feel better fast. David
 

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Sorry, Doug, forgot to wish you for a quick turnaround so you can get back on the shad at the same time the weather turns.

One thing is for sure when it comes to back issues you will get a lot of conflicting advice.
 

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Hey, Doug, here's the good news: no shoveling for you. We got an inch of snow at my house in DC, although not on the sidewalk. Very pretty, but I don't think the azaleas liked it. Paxfish must have got 3 inches or so.

Let us know how you're doing.

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FF - Naw - only about an inch of snow down here.

Doug, once you're all better, it's time to work on your "core." I suffered back pain for years until the last 12 months through lots of cardio exercise. Your core gets strengthend through all of that. I haven't heard a peep out of my compressed disk in all that time....

Ask your doc - I bet they will endorse this!
 

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Best advice here was from Cutter... Back surgery is NOT what it was 5 or 10 years ago... It is used as a last resort and only for isolated issues.

I have had back pain on and off since I was 21.... congenital issue aggravated by a car accident)... My doc gave me some good advice (which I obviously DID NOT follow...) He said the best way to get a healthy back is to build strong stomach muscles... Guess I misheard him to say build a big stomach. Good luck...
 

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I can only tell you gents that years of playing football, serious golfing, and 15 crazy yrs of fly casting have sunk their teeth into my old body and it hurts. It seems every day you awake leads to a new pain. Oh did I mention a neck shoulder problem like Wino talked about recently. Well moving to a warmer climate has helped the back a little anyway.
Old Man, Cutter is totally correct, however, after 5 or 6 back/neck surgeries my wife's not much better, only advice is to try alternate remedies before the knife. Example, After some years of daily golf practice some competition, I developed severe elbow tendenitis. Ortho Dr recommended reattachment, 1 yr to heal, I said heck no, and it eventually improved, probably due to a better golf swing.:D
 

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Here are a few terms everyone with a back problem should learn L4L5 S1 nerve root or C2 through 6. Never underestimate your injury, I toughed it out for 5 years with my lower back. After having micro lumbar dysectomy I was as good as new. On may1 I am having my neck vertabrae rebuilt at the spine institute in Miami Jackson memorial hospital. 3 hours through the front of my neck 3 hours through the back, The neurosurgeon tells me he is giving me 100000 new miles.
 
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