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For what it's worth, I promised some comments about the St. Croix Mojo Bass series rod. I'm not a rod builder, and certainly no expert, but I've seen a few rods lately so I feel like I at least have a base for comparison. My son Daniel had a hundred bucks in Christmas money to spend and picked up one of these for 89.00 at BPS. I had the opportunity to try it out at the Bridge Tunnel last weekend. I suggested the "next generation" rod to him based on some earlier research. Unlike some companies (Powell for example) that are moving to overseas production to cut costs, St. Croix makes these right here at home with relatively good quality materials.

Daniel bought the MBC66MF which is a medium power/fast action 6'6" casting rod. When given the choice, I prefer medium power over medium-heavy for jigging stripers because I find the smaller diameter rods more sensitive. They are also more fragile, so the trade-off might not be worth it for some anglers, especially if you're throwing heavier jigs. Like their other rods, St. Croix markets the Mojo Bass toward specific techniques. According to their website, it's designed for "jerkbait-topwater." I would never use it for either purpose - stiff rods for topwater is so 2007! ;-)

On the other hand, I would certainly use this rod for jigging rockfish. I paired it with my Calcutta 200GTB baitcaster throwing 1 to 1.5 ounce jig heads with 7 or 10 inch soft plastics using 14 pound test braid. The Mojo Bass series is made with St. Croix's SCII graphite formula which I think is a couple of generations down from their higher end rods. Don't let that fool you though, they're still pretty sensitive sticks. I had no problem tuning in to the bottom in moderate CBBT currents and depths of 30-55 feet. Since most of the fish we found were suspended I also enjoyed how quickly the strike - whether a tick or a thump - was transmitted though the rod. The Mojo didn't "light-up" on the strike like some rods I've tried, but was certainly more sensitive than some off-the-rack models in the same price range.

Since my first experience with next generation technology I've vowed never again to buy a rod that weighs more than 4 ounces. This one checks in at 3.7. It seems like it fishes a little heavier than my other rods of similar weight, I'm not sure why. Even though the line guides were steadily icing over, the rod never felt brittle in the sub-20 degree temps.

On the down side, I did not feel the expected blank-to-handle weight transfer I was hoping for. Nothing like the amazing control I felt the first time I hooked up with a Carrot Stick. While fighting a 20 pound striper barely challenged the rod, I found myself wishing for more backbone when horsing-in smaller fish. I also worry that with lack of proper care the chrome plated guides won't hold up to salt water. Nevertheless, I think the rod is completely adequate and well-suited for Chesapeake Bay fishing. A St. Croix rod of this style and quality for less than a hundred bucks is a winning proposition. Look for this to be a very popular jigging stick.
 

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Very detailed Shawn thanks and as we all know every rod is different. So when do you want to do a field test on a Backyard Custom Rod. :D By the way the rod I built you the blank weights 2.66 oz.
 

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Very nice review. :thumbup: Saw the Mojo down BP last weekend and almost pulled the trigger on it. Been thinking about giving a baitcaster another shot. Fished one a little years ago and never could get the hang of it. Sorry to jack the thread, but if I am right handed what reel is best? The one I currently have is reeled with the right hand so I have to switch hands after I cast and doesn't feel right.

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Steve -- I love my Back Yard Custom rods. I have some ideas for a new one I'd like to talk to you about soon. Comparing these off-the-rack rods to custom built ones is apples and oranges.

Andy -- You want the right hand retrieve (if you're right handed). That hand is more sensitive so use it to palm the reel. One of the reasons I'm a fan of the new generation rods is that you can get fingers in direct contact with the blank both in front and under the reel. It's rare that you actually need to overhand cast when jigging rockfish in the Bay. Most of the time you're flipping, and you can easily flip 50 yards if you need to. On the occasions when casting is necessary, it only takes a couple trips to get used to changing hands.

Bill -- I just heard of another cork handle twisted right off a BPS extreme casting rod on a big rockfish. Here's a note that came in through my website:

"By the way my BP Extreme (extend) rod tore up after I caught the last few
rockfish a couple of weeks ago. I will not be buying another one. Not
made to handle big fish. I still had the receipt so I took it back last
week and traded for a carrot stix. I am still getting use to it. It is
6'9", MH, fast action. I think that it is going to be good when the RF get
back in there. I haven't really been able to feel my hands lately to
tell!!!!"
 

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Very nice review. :thumbup: Saw the Mojo down BP last weekend and almost pulled the trigger on it. Been thinking about giving a baitcaster another shot. Fished one a little years ago and never could get the hang of it. Sorry to jack the thread, but if I am right handed what reel is best? The one I currently have is reeled with the right hand so I have to switch hands after I cast and doesn't feel right.

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Andy- I have two little baitcasters that I have grown to love. I am also right handed and reel with my left. Sure I can grab a trolling reel and horse in a fish like that but when I need precision I need to be comfortable. Take a look at this picture. These are the reels I used this past weekend that caught a LOT of big fish. The first reel is a 201 calcutta and the one back in the distance is a Diawa 253. I think the Diawa has a little bit faster retrieve than the calcutta but I love them both. I would keep the drag set to where I could jam a hook into their mouths without pulling drag but then if it was BUBBA I would back the drag off a hair and "thumb" the reel a bit if he was taking to much. Both are solid reels but they are on the small side for Ocean stripers. These reels with 20lb power pro, double uni knot to a 30lb floro leader was perfect as long as you weren't trying to horse them in. You can cast them nicely too. I took a few casts with that small rod and reel in the middle and hooked up with a 40 inch rock. That combo is a Gloomis 6'6'' medium action with a Shimano Sahara 2500. I wont be trying that again:D The fish about spooled me, but as I said before the other reels were great.

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Shawn,

I've had some good success with BPS rods in the past. Maybe I just don't catch as many fish as you guys so they don't get used as much:D I like buying a lot of BPS brand because I can take it back in a heart beat to get a new one or "upgrade". Their return policy is great. I can definitely feel the difference between my Gloomis rods and my BPS but I can't always afford $200 + rods:D How many back yard customs do you have Shawn?

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Dave,

Well I already :jackthread: so I might as well go all out. So your of the opposite opinion of Shawn on retrieve (I think). When Shawn says "palm" the reel with your right it confused me a bit. My next question is on type, Round (Calcutta type) vs. Low Profile (Curado type) and what is better for saltwater?

And as for spinning rods, I live and die by Stradic 3000FI on either M or MH rods and have never had a striper I couldn't lick, and I have gotten a few up to around 40# up on the flats. We actually discussed this if you remember me down BP a few months ago.

Thanks for the tips.

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Thanks for the review of the new rod. I'm thinking about trying out one in this this style. However, I won't be too upset if I catch a fish big enough to twist the cork off my Extreme rod. :D :bigfish:
 

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I have two of Steve's rods. One is too heavy for my jigging tastes. I call it my eeling rod but I also use it for livelining and light tackle trolling with a 300 series baitcaster. The other is designed sepcifically as a topwater casting rod. It's medium power/medium-fast speed. I normally use a spinning outfit for topwater but there are specific situations when this is just the rod. I haven't had a rod built since I started using these "next-generation" sticks. I haven't talked to Steve yet, but I've discussed making one with several rod builders (planning to bounce their ideas off Steve). My reservation is that I haven't found assurances from anyone that they can make a rod lightweight enough yet still durable enough to stand up to the punishment I give them. One rod builder even came right out and said, "I can't make you a rod like that and stand behind it." Reason being, those carrot sticks, cumaras, legend tournaments, mojo's etc. are designed for freshwater bass fishing. Certainly not built for popping 2 ounce jigs to 40+ pound fish. But, I think the better companies have worked out a lot of the durability issues over time. Since I'm dead set on the sensitivity provided by that type of rod, I have to take the risk and play the guarantee game waiting until the technology catches up.

Dave, I think we're getting together for beers tonight.... I'm gonna try to talk you out of that left hand retrieve thing. :D Anything will work when the fish are biting, it's when they aren't that it matters. ;-)
 

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Dave,

Well I already :jackthread: so I might as well go all out. So your of the opposite opinion of Shawn on retrieve (I think). When Shawn says "palm" the reel with your right it confused me a bit. My next question is on type, Round (Calcutta type) vs. Low Profile (Curado type) and what is better for saltwater?

And as for spinning rods, I live and die by Stradic 3000FI on either M or MH rods and have never had a striper I couldn't lick, and I have gotten a few up to around 40# up on the flats. We actually discussed this if you remember me down BP a few months ago.

Thanks for the tips.

Andy
Andy,

I absolutely remember. You were picking up a Gloomis for CBBT:yes:

I am right handed but like to reel with my left hand. I'm just more comfortable that way so I decided to buy reels that catered to my likes. I can palm my curado reels but Im not able to palm my calcutta 201. I'm not 6'4'' and don't have huge hands like Shawn:D I was only suggesting those reels because I was in the same situation and decided to just go with reels that wind with the left hand, instead of having to switch hands. These reels are great and work well for me.

You might want to ask Shawn which reels are better for saltwater. I use my curados for freshwater bass fishing and the calcuta and diawa for saltwater.

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FYI everyone........if your after a MoJo, Tochtermans in Baltimore have them for $90 also......this supports the small local guys, and Tony Tochterman is a great guy. Neet little shop, best bloodworms you will ever find, hands down.

Drewzim.......the low profile reels give you that "Close Palming" that allows you to have alot of contact on the rod blank. The jury is still out though, on wether these reels will hold up to HARD jigging use or not. Shawn and I both have Revo's by Abu Garcia........mines a Premier......I think Shawn has 2........a Revo Inshore and an STX high speed. I know Shawn had to send one in after about a year of service......but lets face it, he probally bailed more fish on that reel in a year than most will in 5:yes:. I really think these reels will hold up to thousands of fish..........I do think a Calcutta type would hold up longer but with the sacrifice of the "Palming". I dont think any damage would be un-repairable.....it just might mean that I will eventually have two reels........if one is in the shop, I'd have a back-up.

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Just give me a call Shawn I would love to hear what you have in mind. I just built a rod for Josh with the exposed handle and I think he really likes it; in fact his buddy liked it so much I built him one just like it.
 

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Andy :

>> And as for spinning rods, I live and die by Stradic 3000FI on either M or MH rods and have never had a striper I couldn't lick, and I have gotten a few up to around 40# up on the flats. We actually discussed this if you remember me down BP a few months ago.

I've seen some good fisherman land mid 40s fish on a 3000FI with little medium power rods that are no bigger around at the butt than a pencil. In fact, I bet most of the bigger LTJ fish pictures posted on this list in the past year were caught with that setup.
 

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That combo is a Gloomis 6'6'' medium action with a Shimano Sahara 2500. I wont be trying that again:D The fish about spooled me, but as I said before the other reels were great.
I fish with BPS extremes and 2500 series Sahara's and i love them and use them all the time. My biggest landed fish is a CBBT 42" fish. We did not get a weight, but the fish was probably mid 30's.

That being said...........a big fish (40+ pounds) will spool a 2500 series reel without blinking an eye. Ask me how i know!!!

I've since upgraded my CBBT stix to 4000 series Saharas!!!

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I fish with BPS extremes and 2500 series Sahara's and i love them and use them all the time. My biggest landed fish is a CBBT 42" fish. We did not get a weight, but the fish was probably mid 30's.

That being said...........a big fish (40+ pounds) will spool a 2500 series reel without blinking an eye. Ask me how i know!!!

I've since upgraded my CBBT stix to 4000 series Saharas!!!

-Mike
Mike,

Yup, I was a rookie CBBTer and got away with it this weekend. The 2500 sahara was fine for the bridge but not out at sea.
 
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