Kevin Smith is the man. He got me on my first striper...that being 27 3/4ths. Can't beat that!! Also taught me a whole bunch on what to look for, how to set up the rigs and what not. Im going to put your knowledge to work and see if I can catch another two tonight. I'll be in the liz river somewhere around the churchland or westnorfolk bridges. Again, Kev thinks for the trip, you taught me a lot and rekindled another fishing addiction.