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If McCain's economic strategy fails, we're looking at higher interest rates and a weakening dollar, however, if Obama's strategy fails we're looking at a depression. He is neutral regarding who he supports. You can pick your poison, however, a depression could mean a total collapse of banking institutions and long lines could be the rule everywhere.
 

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It's already happening....they're predicting record long lines at the polls.:D

A few things about economists: it's hard to find two that agree or one that's anywhere near 100% correct. A third thing is that many well-respected economists support Obama, although in light of the first two things, I'm not sure how much stock to put in that (figuratively or literally).

Of the few economists who I know through work and with whom I've casually discussed the election, they appear to support Obama, less because of his campaign rhetoric, and more because they feel that he his best equipped to listen to multiple points of view, think critically about the issues and ultimately come to the most reasoned position. We shall see, I guess.

Finally, note that Congress will be calling the shots, here. If McCain wins, he will likely have more trouble influencing (including vetoing) bills over the next four years than a Prez Obama. However, a Senator McCain- Prez Obama alliance of sorts could very well form that helps guide through legislation. I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I suspect that Obama will prove to be much more moderate than most people suspect....maybe even downright conservative on a few issues. Obama has supposedly studied the Carter presidency in depth, given the striking similarities between then and now, in an effort to avoid Carter's misteps while duplicating the things that actually worked (and yes, a few things actually worked very well).
 

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However, a Senator McCain- Prez Obama alliance of sorts could very well form that helps guide through legislation.
I don't see it. If McCain loses, he will face the wrath of the GOP and will take the heat for the decline of conservatism, which he may, or may not, deserve. He will be done. But that's okay...he has earned a long rest.:usa:
 

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I don't see it. If McCain loses, he will face the wrath of the GOP and will take the heat for the decline of conservatism, which he may, or may not, deserve. He will be done. But that's okay...he has earned a long rest.:usa:
Why would he face the wrath of the GOP? He was fairly nominated by the party by conforming to the party standard. The real culprit is the party standard. While a slim majority of republicans voted for the conventional republican, the vast majority of Americans will be voting against the conventional republican because they realize that the Republican vision for America is a train wreck.

The GOP needs to take a long hard look at it's platform and tactics after their big loss on Tuesday and take stock.
 

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Their was a board of economists being questioned by Congress the other night on CSPAN. Naturally there was not complete consensus however some facts did stand out. 1`. Begin infrastructure repairs, especially water and sewage plants...results = jobs and payrolls.
2. Begin alternative fuel construction (wind and solar)...results = jobs and payroll. 3. In the interum drill for more oil especially on existing leases (one Repub senator kept trying to get them to say in Alaska but they were too smart for hime)...Results = jobs and payroll. None were particularly enthralled with giving tax money to private enterprise. Capitalism should be able to stand or fall on its own and a group of poorly managed companies failing is the natural course of capitalism.
 

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I'm not saying he should, but he will.;-)
He and Palin do make great scapegoats. What I get a kick out of is the Buzz about Palin in 2012 when she is a big part of why they are losing in 2008. Some people never learn.

Oh, and when it comes to taking the heat for the decline of conservativism, well George W. Bush will wear that crown of thorns to his grave.
 

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It's already happening....they're predicting record long lines at the polls.:D

Of the few economists who I know through work and with whom I've casually discussed the election, they appear to support Obama, less because of his campaign rhetoric, and more because they feel that he his best equipped to listen to multiple points of view, think critically about the issues and ultimately come to the most reasoned position. We shall see, I guess.
Ive already voted for Barr so I dont have any horse in this fight. However, I would disagree that Obama is best equipped to listen to multiple points of view. There is nothing in his past or present to suggest this. He has voted the party line to a fault. The most liberal voting record in all the Senate including Ted Kennedy suggests he will govern at the least like Carter, possibly more left. He has no record of crossing over, whereas McCain has many examples. As a conservative I see both as clusterfugs to straighten out this mess. However, most people I know are scared crapless of what Obama will bring to the office.
 

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He and Palin do make great scapegoats. What I get a kick out of is the Buzz about Palin in 2012 when she is a big part of why they are losing in 2008. Some people never learn.

Oh, and when it comes to taking the heat for the decline of conservativism, well George W. Bush will wear that crown of thorns to his grave.
Sorry to burst your bubble sport, conservatism's not dead(surprised board speller didnt catch your spelling). It will take a hiatus for a while, but as Obama sinks this country further into the craper, conservatism will rise up and crush socialism as usual. There are some really nice socialist countries you can visit, want me to name a few?:))
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble sport, conservatism's not dead(surprised board speller didnt catch your spelling). It will take a hiatus for a while, but as Obama sinks this country further into the craper, conservatism will rise up and crush socialism as usual. There are some really nice socialist countries you can visit, want me to name a few?:))
I said decline Frank not death. How will we ever hold a conversation if you won't read what I type?
 

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(surprised board speller didnt catch your spelling).
The board speller says SD is just fine but you, Frank, are, as usual, full of ****.;-)

conservativism
noun
a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes [syn: conservatism]
 

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My Webster's New World Dictionary second college edition does not list conservativism. Here's Google-

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