Just got home from upstate trip to Saratoga Lake fishing with my 44 year old son in a Bassmasters Tournament. We managed a 4 pound bass, several pickeral (5), and 2 pounders (bass) in quantities of 7. Unfortunately, a torrential rain storm and high winds took up most of our time (6 hours out of 8 hours fished). But we managed and arrived back to shore to find out that we were last in fish weights. It must be those expert natives up there. My fresh water fishing days ended many years ago fortunately.