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I stumbled on what I was looking for as far as Covid Vaccinated people spreading covid to other unvaccinaed people. This was most important in high risk people like those that have High blood pressure,asthma,diabetes or other life threatening diseases who haven't been Vaccinated . People who have been vaccinated can transmit covid to people who have not been vaccinated within the time frame of 2 weeks after their last vaccination. That's 6 weeks from the first shot of either Pfizer or Maderna and 2 weeks from the single shot of J&J. The least complicated way of explaining this is that vaccinated people should carry on with mask wearing and social distancing until after they are fully vaccinated and the safe period is over when near unvaccinated people.A part that wan't explained that I would like to know the answer to is how would it be possible for a high risk,non vaccinated person to catch covid from a person because they were vaccinated and not a danger for a high risk person to get vccinated?Now, what instructions were those of you given after you were vaccinated pertainng to this? This is the last of my covid inquiry posts. It's Sprang, time to go fishing .
 

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You raised an interesting question Nick. Now I can inly speak for what happened to me at the Anne Arundel County Community College. After I received my shot I was told to remain for fifteen minutes to see that I had no reaction to the shot. I was to time myself. They had a clock in the wall. After fifteen minutes I could leave. That was it. There were no further instructions about continuing to wear the mask or social distancing etc. They had a paper on the chair telling you about the getting the second dose appt. and who to call if you had any questions.
 

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God willing, I get second Moderna dose Saturday. Two weeks after that I will spend the entire day in stores and restaurants!! Will still wear mask only because required. Oh, will go hug grandkids before store blitz. Right now I desperately need a small section of hose from West Marine and my wife will not let me go in the store....so frustrating.
 

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I stumbled on what I was looking for as far as Covid Vaccinated people spreading covid to other unvaccinaed people. This was most important in high risk people like those that have High blood pressure,asthma,diabetes or other life threatening diseases who haven't been Vaccinated . People who have been vaccinated can transmit covid to people who have not been vaccinated within the time frame of 2 weeks after their last vaccination. That's 6 weeks from the first shot of either Pfizer or Maderna and 2 weeks from the single shot of J&J. The least complicated way of explaining this is that vaccinated people should carry on with mask wearing and social distancing until after they are fully vaccinated and the safe period is over when near unvaccinated people.A part that wan't explained that I would like to know the answer to is how would it be possible for a high risk,non vaccinated person to catch covid from a person because they were vaccinated and not a danger for a high risk person to get vccinated?Now, what instructions were those of you given after you were vaccinated pertainng to this? This is the last of my covid inquiry posts. It's Sprang, time to go fishing .
Please post your source of this information as it sounds like it goes against the science of what vaccines can and can't do.

A vaccine only jump starts your immune system to fight a virus thus lessening the degree of infection, hopefully keeping the symptoms to be mild or non-existent. Since your immune system is already ramped up and fighting the virus, there is less of it in your body thus making it less likely for you to deliver the viral load to cause infection in others (healthy individuals). Those with compromised immune systems require a lower viral load for it to overwhelm them and become symptomatic.

A vaccine doe NOT put you inside a bubble to keep a virus out or from you expelling it. Nor does it kill the virus on contact keeping you from becoming infected (or contagious).
 

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I stumbled on it on the browser this morning and then it didn't show up again. Maybe someone else will stumble on it. I don't ink I culd post from the microsoft news browser anyway. Thees vaccines are not traditional vaccines . I think that was described on Russels video that he posted on another covid post I started. These are Experimental Vaccines that's why they were pushed through as " For Emergency Use" The companys are not liable for any lawsuits from side effects or death . About 1/3 of health care workers,including doctors and nurses have decided to wait atleast a year before they get vaccinated. Everyon believes what they want to believe or just try to prove someone wrong if they don't believe something. I take all the information in that I can find and then decide what I think is best for me . I've had experiences with several doctors that weren't right with differen't diagnosis .
 

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Now you tell me! I think I can find the receipt for the Clorox to get a refund, but getting the 100,000 lumen LED flashlight out is gonna really hurt....
Folks needed to wean themselves very early from little johnny pinocchio nose, and also those late nite $19.95 for anything ads. But hang on!....some you could get one for 19.95, and another one for FREE(just pay a fee).
 

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To go back to the original question. While you can read news from lots of different places you should only trust news from reputable sources.

I got vaccinated. I still wear a mask unless I am around others that I know have been vaccinated, even then I question should I or should I not. I am still working up to the concept of eating out at an indoor diner and going to crowded stores Folks that get Phizer or Moderna still have like a 5% chance of catching it and being spreaders. With Johnson and Johnson it is a 35% chance of catching it and spreading it. This is as compared to the un-vaccinated public.

Get vaccinated as this is the only way that we are going to beat this. Until the spread goes down to almost nothing continue to be careful, social distance and wear a mask.

The big fear is that covid mutates into a variant that is equally or more contagious; is more deadly and resists the current vaccines that is a triple whammy that would put us back into lock-down, cause untold more deaths, and economic hardship.
 

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Please post your source of this information as it sounds like it goes against the science of what vaccines can and can't do.

A vaccine only jump starts your immune system to fight a virus thus lessening the degree of infection, hopefully keeping the symptoms to be mild or non-existent. Since your immune system is already ramped up and fighting the virus, there is less of it in your body thus making it less likely for you to deliver the viral load to cause infection in others (healthy individuals). Those with compromised immune systems require a lower viral load for it to overwhelm them and become symptomatic.

A vaccine doe NOT put you inside a bubble to keep a virus out or from you expelling it. Nor does it kill the virus on contact keeping you from becoming infected (or contagious). How do you know so mch abot vaccines? How do you know so much about vaccines?
 

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htts://www.verywellhealth.com/dos-and-d0nts-after-covid-vaccine-5113705 If this desn't come up ,type in verywellhealth.com/dos-and-donts-after-covid-vaccine-5113705 This informtion is more important for people being around vaccinated people that haven't been vaccinated . These vaccines work differen't than traditional vaccines . They are listed as "Experimental/Emergency "
 

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htts://www.verywellhealth.com/dos-and-d0nts-after-covid-vaccine-5113705 If this desn't come up ,type in verywellhealth.com/dos-and-donts-after-covid-vaccine-5113705 This informtion is more important for people being around vaccinated people that haven't been vaccinated . These vaccines work differen't than traditional vaccines . They are listed as "Experimental/Emergency "
I read the article and didn't see anything about not being able to transmit the virus after 2 weeks. Though, it takes up to 2 weeks for the vaccine to be as effective as it's going to be for the person that was vaccinated. The article actually pretty much echo's what I posted above.

A couple other inaccuracies in your post....The only people who I have seen "list" the vaccine as "Experimental" are the Anti-Vax people. It does carry the "Emergency Use" authorization. This is because the trial periods were shorter involving less people than is customary.
You say that they work different than "traditional" vaccines. I think the article explained the difference between effective and sterilizing immunity very well. Vaccines that provide effective immunity have been around for I know of at least 40 years. By "traditional" you mean that it doesn't contain the actual virus, you're correct. It contains the manufactured blueprint of the virus (think forgery or look-a-like) that tricks the immune system to think that it was invaded. Vaccines such as these have been around for quite some time though not as long as live-virus vaccines.
 

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Let us know how you feel after! We go tomorrow for #2 (Moderna).
I received the Moderna. A few hours after my first shot my entire arm felt like I got hit by a baseball bat. The next morning it was pretty much back to normal. After the 2nd shot I only had very local soreness that wasn't much worse than any other shot I've ever gotten.

Most of my co-workers had the same experience as me but, there were a couple that said they felt like they had the worst flu they've ever had with fever and body aches with all symptoms being gone within 24 hrs.

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The worst side effects seem to be from the Pfizer. My neighbor said the 2nd. shot was terrible. High fever,nausea , dizziness , rapid heart beat . If you get a 2 shot vaccine ,you are supposedly 95% less likely from getting the Wuhan Virus. If you are over 70 and you do catch it without being vaccinated, you have a 95% chance of surviving . So it's 95% chance of not getting the Wuhan virus with the vaccine and a 95% chance of survival ( over 70) if you get the Whuhan virus withot the vaccine. In either case, what's the % chance of getting the Wuhan in the first place unless you don't or can't practice good mask wearing , hand washing or social distancing? If you practice these things, you should have a very small % chance of catching it at all.
 

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Let us know how you feel after! We go tomorrow for #2 (Moderna).
First dose of Moderna sore arm for both my wife and me for about 48 hours. No other symptoms.

Second dose. Sore arm for both of us for 48 hours. The wife gets a mild fever that evening and feels like **** the next day. I feel more or less OK until about 24 hours after the jab. I get a blanket. watch TV, go to bed early and feel fine the next day. We both feel just fine on day 2. For both of us it was better than the side effects of the two dose shingles vaccine.

Word of advice. Do not make plans for the day after you get the second jab.
 
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